Pole Plate

[Mastercraftsman]

does anyone know if its possible to hang new floor joists 8x2 from a pole plate

thanks

 

[noseall]

Yes it is.

 

[tony1851]

Yes it is.

Assuming the plate is not secured with panel pins

 

[Mastercraftsman]

thanks alot for the replies, thats fantastic news ! i can get cracking soon then

 

[tony1851]

i can get cracking soon then

Hold on a minute; is the pole plate existing, or are you proposing to fix one to carry your floor?
Joking apart, you need to ensure the pole plate is securely fixed to the wall if it is carrying a floor load. A few casually-placed screws along the length may not be sufficient. The wall material is also a significant factor; is it brick, lightweight block, etc?

 

[Mastercraftsman]

hi tony, if its ok i will take a picture and post it up here tomorrow for you to maybe take a quick look at. from what i understand there is a very thick external brick wall (will measure tomorrow) then a wall plate ontop of that, attached to the wall plate are 4x2 ceiling joists, then tieing all the ceiling joists up is the pole plate, which also has the rafters resting ontop of it. It seems like the pole plate cant go anywhere and is very very solid however it isnt directly touching the wall like a wall plate does, i wasnt sure if this is safe or not to use to attach the 8x2s

sorry if thats not made any sense or if ive messed up on the terminology but i will post a pic tomorrow if you could be so kind as to help!

thanks alot

 

[Mastercraftsman]

just got back and here are a few pics of the pole plate hopefully showing a little better what i was trying to explain !

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[tony1851]

That pole plate looks substantial enough. but what is it supported off? Presumably it.s carried on the ends of the ceiling joists, just before they reach the wall. If this is the case, the floor load will, via the pole plate, put a substantial extra shear load on the ends of the ceiling joists, which ideally should be checked for vertical shear.

 

[Mastercraftsman]

hi again, just an update structural engineer is coming over to do some maths and i will take it from there !

thanks again for your help tony, you were right about the shear load, looking like a few steels are going to be needed !