Wiring new light fitting

[DIYnovice123456789]

Hi everyone,

I've been trawling through the forums for hours trying to find the correct and safest way to fit my new light fitting, replacing the older standard rose ceiling lighting. Apologies if this has already been posted elsewhere, but everything I read seemed lightly different to what my set up appears to be. Any help would be much appreciated. I've attached pictures of the old and the new:

Old

Old Fitting 'Front'

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Old Fitting 'Back'

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New

New Fitting

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I know that there are essentially two batches of wires containing 3 wires each (earth, live and neutral?). I'm not sure about how to connect them though...[/img]

 

[AndyPRK]

quite easy, as long as you don't mix the wires up!

Switch the consumer unit off or at least the light circuits at the CU.

Take the two red wires in the middle joining block out of the back of the rose, and connect that to the spare/empty connection on the end.


Take the black wire out the back of the rose which is next to the blue, and connect that to N.

Take the remaining wires out and get rid of the rose.

Put a bit of red tape round the black wire and connect that to L.

Connect earth green/yellows to earth green

 

[DIYnovice123456789]

quite easy, as long as you don't mix the wires up!

Switch the consumer unit off or at least the light circuits at the CU.

Take the two red wires in the middle joining block out of the back of the rose, and connect that to the spare/empty connection on the end.


Take the black wire out the back of the rose which is next to the blue, and connect that to N.

Take the remaining wires out and get rid of the rose.

Put a bit of red tape round the black wire and connect that to L.

Connect earth green/yellows to earth green

Wow, thanks for the super quick reply!

So with the two reds in the middle (part of the loop system? Because there are only two, does that mean it's the last light on the circuit?), the wires are ok to touch and go into the same spare bit on the new lighting block? Or should I put one wire in one end, and the other one in the other end?

Thanks

 

[Scoby_Beasley]

quite easy, as long as you don't mix the wires up!

Switch the consumer unit off or at least the light circuits at the CU.

Take the two red wires in the middle joining block out of the back of the rose, and connect that to the spare/empty connection on the end.


Take the black wire out the back of the rose which is next to the blue, and connect that to N.

Take the remaining wires out and get rid of the rose.

Put a bit of red tape round the black wire and connect that to L.

Connect earth green/yellows to earth green

Wow, thanks for the super quick reply!

So with the two reds in the middle (part of the loop system? Because there are only two, does that mean it's the last light on the circuit?), the wires are ok to touch and go into the same spare bit on the new lighting block? Or should I put one wire in one end, and the other one in the other end?

Thanks

You can put the two reds however you like. Whichever is easier for you to do. Andy has it right apart from one thing I'd suggest. Don't just knock the mcb off that controls the lights, knock all the power off. Best done when Emmerdale is on!!

EDIT!!
See Andy suggested that anyhow! I'll shut ma gob!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

everything I read seemed lightly different to what my set up appears to be.

It's exactly like the Dining Room light in the first drawing here: //www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:lighting-circuit-layouts

I know that there are essentially two batches of wires containing 3 wires each (earth, live and neutral?).

No. //www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:lighting

I'm not sure about how to connect them though...

//www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:rose

I've been trawling through the forums for hours trying to find the correct and safest way to fit my new light fitting, replacing the older standard rose ceiling lighting.

Did you not see this:

 

[DIYnovice123456789]

everything I read seemed lightly different to what my set up appears to be.

It's exactly like the Dining Room light in the first drawing here: //www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:lighting-circuit-layouts

I know that there are essentially two batches of wires containing 3 wires each (earth, live and neutral?).

No. //www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:lighting

I'm not sure about how to connect them though...

//www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:rose

I've been trawling through the forums for hours trying to find the correct and safest way to fit my new light fitting, replacing the older standard rose ceiling lighting.

Did you not see this:

Thanks, I did see that, and generally found there were so many different setups, I wasn't sure which was most applicable lol.

Anyway, thanks to Andy and Scoby for the quick replies. It was good to just get a bit of reassurance regarding my exact case. I got the lights up and running just right

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Thanks, I did see that, and generally found there were so many different setups, I wasn't sure which was most applicable lol.

Anyway, thanks to Andy and Scoby for the quick replies. It was good to just get a bit of reassurance regarding my exact case. I got the lights up and running just right

When you came to follow their instructions, did you truly understand how it all worked, and why you were putting each wire where they said?

 

[DIYnovice123456789]

When you came to follow their instructions, did you truly understand how it all worked, and why you were putting each wire where they said?

Yeah I understand the circuit. That diagram does indeed look the same as mine. As I said, amongst looking through a tonne of websites and then finding your forum, where I then saw another 20-odd diagrams, it all got a bit confusing. I generally got the idea though and understood the basic principle that was going on. All I was after was a bit of assurance before actually going ahead with it. Jeez, sorry for p1ssing you off. I won't post anything else in the future.