240v to 12v lights in bathroom
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It depends on what work is involved - if you are changing from say a single rose to a downlight with integrated transofmer so no alteration to the fixed wiring is necessary then I don't think it is notifiable even if it falls within the zones. Of course all apparatus must be suitable for where they are to be located.
Adding lights which fall into the zones (16th edn regs zones 0,1,2,3) is notifiable.
Replacing a shower unit isn't notifiable however if you need to upgrade the circuit then I'd say it is. If the MI states an RCD is required and one isn't already fitted then you'll need to have one fitted so will be notifiable.
Adding lights which fall into the zones (16th edn regs zones 0,1,2,3) is notifiable.
Replacing a shower unit isn't notifiable however if you need to upgrade the circuit then I'd say it is. If the MI states an RCD is required and one isn't already fitted then you'll need to have one fitted so will be notifiable.
Why would you wish to do this?
240V downlights can be fitted with a greater variety of lamps (LEDs, CFLs, CCs)
Please bear in mind, a watt is a watt at any voltage, 12 volt lamps use NO LESS energy than 240 volt lamps.
They do produce a better light, and more lumens per watt, so you get more light for the same amount of electricity though
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Yes.
Yes.
There is no "therefore". The works you identify all "come under Part P" because Part P (in fact all of the Building Regulations) applies to any work whatsoever on fixed electrical cables or fixed electrical equipment located on the consumer’s side of the electricity supply meter which operate at low or extra-low voltage and are—
(a) in or attached to a dwelling;
(b) in the common parts of a building serving one or more dwellings, but excluding power supplies to lifts;
(c) in a building that receives its electricity from a source located within or shared with a dwelling; or
(d) in a garden or in or on land associated with a building where the electricity is from a source located within or shared with a dwelling.
So for anything you do you are legally obliged to comply with P1:
P1 Reasonable provision shall be made in the design and installation of electrical installations in order to protect persons operating, maintaining or altering the installations from fire or injury.
Whether a job is notifiable or not is a separate issue, and if you read Schedule 2B you'll see a list of what isn't.
Yes, and Range Rovers have better fuel economy than Landcruiser Amazons so you'll travel further on a gallon of petrol.They do produce a better light, and more lumens per watt, so you get more light for the same amount of electricity though
ner ner!Yes, and Range Rovers have better fuel economy than Landcruiser Amazons so you'll travel further on a gallon of petrol.They do produce a better light, and more lumens per watt, so you get more light for the same amount of electricity though
Rob, dont come to my house, its full of CFLs.
No, its not like for like.
The lights must be the same rating (voltage and wattage).
The shower must be the same rating.
Part P (in fact all of the Building Regulations) applies to any work whatsoever on fixed electrical cables or fixed electrical equipment located on the consumer’s side of the electricity supply meter which operate at low or extra-low voltage and are—
(a) in or attached to a dwelling;
(b) in the common parts of a building serving one or more dwellings, but excluding power supplies to lifts;
(c) in a building that receives its electricity from a source located within or shared with a dwelling; or
(d) in a garden or in or on land associated with a building where the electricity is from a source located within or shared with a dwelling.
Which part of The Building Regulations says it has to be?
Which part of The Building Regulations says they have to be?
Which part of The Building Regulations says it has to be?
PART P of the building regs states that LIKE FOR LIKE replacements are NOT NOTIFIABLE. No matter which room they permenantly reside in!
If the new light fitting is a different rating doesn't that mean its no longer like for like? For a start he's going to have extra transformers which he didnt have before. They all need connecting up. This is added fixed wiring.
Then theres the riskier business of his shower. As long as the shower's rating is the same, there is no issue.
If the new light fitting is a different rating doesn't that mean its no longer like for like? For a start he's going to have extra transformers which he didnt have before. They all need connecting up. This is added fixed wiring.
Then theres the riskier business of his shower. As long as the shower's rating is the same, there is no issue.
Care to point to the part of The Building Regulations which states that?
Page 9 of Approved Document P as displayed:
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf
I draw your attention to the very top bullet point under table 1: Work that need not be notified.
It refers to like for like replacements where the fixed circuit wiring need not be altered.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf
I draw your attention to the very top bullet point under table 1: Work that need not be notified.
It refers to like for like replacements where the fixed circuit wiring need not be altered.
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