allen key bit in window restrictor

[Mello555]

Hey guys before I buy some tools tomorrow do you what the hexagonal allen key bolt on this window of mine will do if removed. Its the same windoq as the post How to Cut a Metal Bar in Half in the tools section and the pictures are there.

 

[Burnerman]

If you take the allen bolt out, the keep will be able to slide to and fro. Whether it can be slid out of the frame, I don't know.
Give it a try! You can always pop it back if you get into bother.
John

 

[Mello555]

The keep, the stay, the restrictor already slides back and forth. It's only got half an inch more to go.

And out od interest how wpuld one take the whole pane of glass, the actual window, off this thing?

 

[Gazman16]

A link would have been helpful, Here you go //www.diynot.com/diy/threads/how-to-cut-in-half-a-thick-metal-bar.440670/
I would definitely recommend trying to unscrew it first!
That is an old window and there is a slight possibility that the opening sash can be unhooked when fully open i.e if it swings fully open it may fall out. Very unlikely but just on the off chance I would want to be able to put things back together just in case.
Oh and 1st time you open it fully make sure you have a good grip on it and give it a wiggle to make sure.

 

[Mello555]

Cheers and cheers for the link, I didn't know whether I was allowed to post it. But what's the opening sash? I thought we were calling the metal bar a restrictor or stay/keep.

But what's the actual function for that allen bolt?

 

[Gazman16]

Cheers and cheers for the link, I didn't know whether I was allowed to post it. But what's the opening sash? I thought we were calling the metal bar a restrictor or stay/keep.

But what's the actual function for that allen bolt?

A sash is the opening part of a window. Although it is highly unlikely it would fall out and smash to pieces on the ground below I cant be 100% sure without knowing what sort of hinges are fitted. Some makes of windows once fully open can just lift off the hinges and come out, So Im just saying to be careful when you get the restrictor off and open the window fully.

I am not familiar with that make of window but most likely the allen bolts are just the fixings for the restrictor/stay, Take them out and it should come off.

 

[Mello555]

Well this sounds like the right method if it works. Theres just (that) one allen bolt and then screws attaching the gate to the wood and the whole gate is melded to the structure anyway. So the sash is that metal bar? What does hinges refer to? The bits on the two farthest sides of the window.

 

[Gazman16]

No the sash is the whole window opening part.
To be honest if you don't know what a hinge is I think you should be thinking about get someone in to do it for you.

 

[Mello555]

Yeah maybe. Though just for knowkedge you couldn't let me know? I thinka hinge in laymans terms could be the hinges on each side or possible bar restrictor.

Also if I ever wanted to glue it back together if I do the saw option what metal glues would you reccomend?

 

[Mello555]

Btw here's a pic that may reveal what the allen bolt does.

 

[Burnerman]

So.....have you unscrewed the bolt yet, just to see whats what?
If you do cut that bar, there isn't an adhesive that would fix it back together again.
John

 

[Mello555]

Been a bit busy, think I love the planning more than doing. But really? It's just a metal surely if there's supposed metal glue it can be glued back? What's the reasoning? Would an epoxy do?
Cheers.

 

[Mello555]

Think after all the hacksaw talk, I'm becoming more sure that allen bolts removal will just take out the metal bit stopping the bar from coming out.

 

[Burnerman]

Metals in this situation don't like to be butt jointed back together with adhesive - even epoxy. There just isn't enough surface area for the adhesive to grip to.
John

 

[Mello555]

Mmm.
Thanks.

But do you think the allen bolt removal will remove that little metal bit allowing the bar to slide out? Because it does seem to be designed that way.