Antique custom flush pipe - 34.8mm??

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Hi folks.

I've been restoring a 1906 Japkap cistern for my period bathroom. The WC pan will be a modern, generic low/high cistern unit.

I need a flush pipe to connect the high cistern to the pan.

They are available commercially - the cheapest I've found is here.

However I'm somewhat loathed to spend £90+ on a bit of pipe, especially as it is of unknown diameter and may not fit without fettling.

I've also found a firm selling plastic pipe versions versions at a reasonable price.

It doesn't need to be chrome - I'm happy with black - so I could paint the plastic version.

But I'd prefer metal, it wouldn't feel right if it was plastic. The standard modern version is chrome plated brass. The original was lead. I assume copper is a viable alternative - is this correct?

The next question is how to seal it into the bottom on the syphon. Originally it was a lead tube which fits inside the neck of the syphon - with, what appears to be, a brass section joined onto the top with a heavy collar on it. The retaining nut slides over this collar, capturing it, and then screws onto the bottom of the syphon.


I had planned to get a £90 kit and sweat a brass machined collar onto the end to give the same effect. Alternatively, the off cut of the original lead flush pipe (complete with retaining collar) could be joined onto or over a suitable pipe

But the size is weird - its about inch and a third. The ID of the syphon pipe is 34.8mm - as was the OD of the lead pipe.


I don't mind sanding the diameter of a new pipe a little to reduce some OD to make it fit but wouldn't know how to add material.

I also need to save as much cash as possible.

Could anyone advise me on 1) a suitable alternative pipe material and size. 2) the best method of joining the pipe to the cistern.

We have a pipe shop at work that bends mild steel, so I should be able to have the bends put into the pipe.

Really appreciate your help.
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Plus if anyone local (Manchester-ish) has any offcuts/stock or can bend it up for me then please let me know.
 
Alternatively - could it be bend by hand around a piece of scaffolding pipe (I've got a big blowtorch on a propane cylinder)?
 
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Me again - have found a 35mm pipe bending spring for £12.99 from here if this is practical for pipe of this size?

Have also seen 35mm pipe at a good price - see here


would love to find somewhere in Manchester with a similar price. At that amount I could buy both the pipe and the bending spring and have change out of £40. Plus I could make a one-piece pipe to exactly the height I want.
 
The tricky part will be getting a tight radius curve with the spring. Ask your local plumbers merchants for price of copper tube. Do you know how you're going to couple it all together yet?
 
Bending with a spring is tricky enough at the best of times, trying to bend 35mm, especially for an amateur is likely to be a nightmare. 35mm tube isn't going to be cheap, and can you afford to throw it away if the bends haven't formed properly? I think you either need to get someone with the specialist kit to bend it properly who can manufacture the flush pipe for you, use fittings as opposed to bending the pipe, or do the job in plastic. :unsure:
 
Thanks guys - Ill start to build it up and will shout if I run into any queries.
 
What size? Basically, the modern equivalent is a tap connector but depends on the size that's needed.
 
Hello,

Can the brass adapter shown in below photo still be purchased? If so, what is the part called or what is its British Standard number? I have searched online but nothing came up.

Thanks in advance.
It's a cap+lining . You'll be lucky to find one anywhere:unsure:
 

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