Any Negatives of Using Mesh and Paper?

[ILikeDIYS]

Yesterday's job was putting an electrical cable into a ceiling. After cutting the access and screwing back on I taped it with orange scrim tape... then some Easy Fill, then paper tape... then some Easy Fill again.

Are there any negatives of using mesh AND paper in one application? Would it be extra strong? Or just no difference and a time-wasting effort?

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

firstly , you really shouldn’t be burying cables in chases in the ceiling.
no to the paper.
maybe you should ask the questions before the event?

 

[ILikeDIYS]

firstly , you really shouldn’t be burying cables in chases in the ceiling.
no to the paper.
maybe you should ask the questions before the event?

Huh? It went over a joist.

No to paper as in waste of time or it will crack in time? Cos if there's a possibility of cracking it has to be pulled off, otherwise forget and move on.

Ceiling will be bonded and skimmed eventually (it's Artex).

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

aah ok. the cable is above.
if you only cut a small section out you didn’t need to tape or scrim , just fill.
no paper whatever... the aim is to get the plaster to key /bond to the surface. paper tape will ruin it. scrim only for plastering .
also dont ‘bond’ to skim over artex ,
if the artex is sound to the ceiling use blue grit over it all , then skim.

 

[ILikeDIYS]

aah ok. the cable is above.
if you only cut a small section out you didn’t need to tape or scrim , just fill.
no paper whatever... the aim is to get the plaster to key /bond to the surface. paper tape will ruin it. scrim only for plastering .
also dont ‘bond’ to skim over artex ,
if the artex is sound to the ceiling use blue grit over it all , then skim.

So tape is only used when jointing plasterboards? But for any remedial work use scrim?

I read after a Google search that over Artex it's best to scrape any tops and loose bits, do 2 coats of PVA, then a bonding coat to flatten, then PVA (if bonding is left to dry), then multi finish.

That blue grit stuff looks way too expensive at £30 a tub.

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

been plastering 25 years , never used bonding coat on a ceiling and never will.
if the artex is that deep knock the high spots off and overboard, skim.
never used pva on a ceiling bigger than say 2square mtrs.
blue grit is as good as it gets and only a tenner more than pva.
your choice.