Anyone used prop pals?

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I'm thinking about giving these a try. I think they only came out a couple of years ago. They can slip through a gap the size is a brick and have a handle on them at one end to wind it up the last bit rather than fight with the acrow handle. Just wondered if anything has any thoughts on them? Cheers.
 
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Its just a different style of needle, personally I prefer strongboys as you can drill out the mortar line without disturbing the brick course and if the you need to support the inner leaf and the brick / block is not line you can drill that and bash them in.

Not quite sure about the Acro handle, I would prefer one point of failure ie the acro screw which is pretty robust and in both cases you will need to wind up the acro into the shoe on the bottom of the prop.

The only benefit I can see is potentially it gives more free space under the hole.
 
Its just a different style of needle, personally I prefer strongboys as you can drill out the mortar line without disturbing the brick course and if the you need to support the inner leaf and the brick / block is not line you can drill that and bash them in.

Not quite sure about the Acro handle, I would prefer one point of failure ie the acro screw which is pretty robust and in both cases you will need to wind up the acro into the shoe on the bottom of the prop.

The only benefit I can see is potentially it gives more free space under the hole.
As it happens I've got that problem with the inner hollow blocks being no where near level with the outer brick wall. Was thinking I might have to find a tool that can cut the block neatly all the way through to match the arris of the brickwork. I am tempted by using strong boys on both walls but a lot of people have talked me out of it.
 
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As it happens I've got that problem with the inner hollow blocks being no where near level with the outer brick wall. Was thinking I might have to find a tool that can cut the block neatly all the way through to match the arris of the brickwork. I am tempted by using strong boys on both walls but a lot of people have talked me out of it.
Just drill a line of holes and bash the strongboy in then re mortar afterwards
 
So, someone has made a needle out of metal and is touting it as some sort of brilliant idea?
For me they could be worth it. Instead of a piece of 4x4 timber these are about 60mm high apparently. Which would mean I can possibly get them above the steel and under the floorboards of the bedroom above. Otherwise it would have to go higher up and sit on top of the bedroom floor.
 
Surely if you're knocking through it really doesn't matter - if the inner blockwork is too low it needs to come out anyway - just stick some timber packers on top of the boys. You can do it all from outside, they just bend a bit more at the end.

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Are these a solution in need of a problem to solve? I've not come across a domestic propping situation that timber needles could not deal with, or strong boys for a bit of convenience. The prop pals website has its fair share of spin and marketing gumf.

But bottom line is that if you have to pay for timber to make needles, then perhaps the hire charge could be justified. But I would question the need and value of buying these outright.
 
Surely if you're knocking through it really doesn't matter - if the inner blockwork is too low it needs to come out anyway - just stick some timber packers on top of the boys. You can do it all from outside, they just bend a bit more at the
I imagine the XL strong boys would be perfect to reach the far side. I'd have to do that from the inside and have the steel outside. Cheers
 
Are these a solution in need of a problem to solve? I've not come across a domestic propping situation that timber needles could not deal with, or strong boys for a bit of convenience. The prop pals website has its fair share of spin and marketing gumf.

But bottom line is that if you have to pay for timber to make needles, then perhaps the hire charge could be justified. But I would question the need and value of buying these outright.
I think they're about £300. I don't use them enough for that. £15 to hire. I need 4 though.
 

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