Arctic ice melting - maybe not

[JohnD]

China is worse than ever.

Where did you hear that story?

A decline in emissions of CFC-11 and related chemicals from eastern China - Nature

Atmospheric data and chemical-transport modelling show that CFC-11 emissions from eastern China have again decreased, after increasing in 2013–2017, and a delay in ozone-layer recovery has probably been avoided.

www.nature.com

 

[transam]

"Muscle" cars?

Feelings of inadequacy?

As you see fit

 

[Brigadier]

Nonsense yer self

The ford motor company lost a staggering
I
1.32 billion on its EV bussiness with each leccy car sold representing a loss of a 100 grand

Ford have scrapped plans for an all leccy 3 row large SUV as well as delaying the launch of its next battery leccy pack

Hardly surprising, as they struggle to make passable ICE cars. And they've had a century to get that right

Shareholders ask Ford execs to explain plan for fixing quality

Just one Ford shareholder question shocked company chair Bill Ford during the annual meeting, and that question involved the Corvette (built by Chevrolet).

eu.freep.com

 

[transam]

You do know that was the plan? Apart from the battery pack. When they announced it in 2022 they were expecting to be loss making until 2026.

Ford says EV unit losing billions, should be seen as startup

Ford’s electric vehicle business has lost $3 billion before taxes during the past two years and will lose a similar amount this year as the company invests heavily in the new technology.

apnews.com

They're building out their manufacturing lines, that costs money. You need to read beyond the initial headlines tranny.

You need to sort yer self out and stop being a big head know all

Profitability for many auto makers on these EVs i hinges on government incentives and tax credits basically the poor / have nots subsidising the wealthy
Trump is likely to adopt an attitude of protecting
US industry and workers

Nett zero

Yes exactly

Ball cocks

 

[IT Minion]

You need to sort yer self out and stop being a big head know all

I'm sorry to have hurt your feelings but you were spouting

Ball cocks

 

[Brigadier]

Profitability for many auto makers on these EVs i hinges on government incentives and tax credits basically the poor / have nots subsidising the wealthy

Until the (better, more economical, more efficient, faster, more reliable...........) EVs become cheaper in their own right.

And the "poor and have - not" don't subsidise anyone as they, by necessity and by design, don't.

You can't get blood out of a stone.

Trump is likely to adopt an attitude of protecting
US industry and workers

".... likely....."



How do you think that would work?

Drop US wages?

Or raise US prices so that they're even more uncompetitive?

 

[transam]

I'm sorry to have hurt your feelings but you were spouting

You can’t hurt my feelings

Spouting well some thing you do on a regular basis

Yes exactly ball cocks

 

[IT Minion]

So far on this thread we've learnt that the arctic ice is shrinking. Measures to control CFC emissions have worked to help repair the hole in the Ozone layer, that Ford's EV plans are broadly on track, that China's emissions might be starting to fall.

Pretty informative I think.

 

[transam]

Until the (better, more economical, more efficient, faster, more reliable...........) EVs become cheaper in their own right.

And the "poor and have - not" don't subsidise anyone as they, by necessity and by design, don't.

You can't get blood out of a stone.



".... likely....."



How do you think that would work?

Drop US wages?

Or raise US prices so that they're even more uncompetitive?

As a result it’s likely that more EV models will be cancelled and more petrol and diesel models introduced or at least up dated

As auto makers look to off set there EV losses

 

[JohnD]

So far on this thread we've learnt that the arctic ice is shrinking. Measures to control CFC emissions have worked to help repair the hole in the Ozone layer, that Ford's EV plans are broadly on track, that China's emissions might be starting to fall.

Pretty informative I think.

We have also learned how Tranny likes to amuse himself.

 

[IT Minion]

As a result it’s likely that more EV models will be cancelled and more petrol and diesel models introduced or at least up dated

As auto makers look to off set there EV losses

Diesels? Have you been living in a cave for the last decade?

 

[Brigadier]

As a result it’s likely that more EV models will be cancelled and more petrol and diesel models introduced or at least up dated

As auto makers look to off set there EV losses

So, it's an accepted reality that Ford make a balls - up of their ICE, and lose money hand over fist doing so......

... and your genius solution is.......

Blame something else

Are you Ford senior management?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

As I've said before, I'm now in my 50s so, if lucky, have 2.5 - 3.5 decades left. I could be proved wrong, however I can't imagine the situation here in the UK will get dramatically worse climate wise within that time.

Conclusion? I couldn't really give two hoots.

 

[IT Minion]

As I've said before, I'm now in my 50s so, if lucky, have 2.5 - 3.5 decades left. I could be proved wrong, however I can't imagine the situation here in the UK will get dramatically worse climate wise within that time.

Conclusion? I couldn't really give two hoots.

Ah, **** the young. How very Prince Andrew of you.

 

[JohnD]

The pattern is seen in Conservative policies.