Awkward window installation.

[firapara]

Hi guys,

Can you please help with an advice.

I have one big bedroom with a window like this:

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• firapara
• 13 Mar 2015
• 2

It is one room and behind the panel there is a brick wall. I cannot install one big window, it probably have to be two smaller windows with some sort of panel in between?

I wonder how would I install the the windows. I will only be able to screw the windows to one side wall and to the wall at the bottom, i.e only two sides will be properly screwed. How do I go about securing the windows at the top (see picture below), as I understand I cannot drill into the joist as it is dangerous? Or maybe there is some other way how to tackle this properly?

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• firapara
• 14 Apr 2015
• 1

Any advice on how to approach UPVC window(s) installation in this case is greatly appreciated?

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Thanks in advance!

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

You were advised in your original thread that you should just get one large three panel window with the centre panel being a blank. Why can't you do that? It very much seems that that is what you have at present so just replace like for like.

Or are we missing something ........

 

[firapara]

You were advised in your original thread that you should just get one large three panel window with the center panel being a blank. Why can't you do that? It very much seems that that is what you have at present so just replace like for like.

Or are we missing something ........

Thanks Freddy,

It has proven difficult to get such unit. Do you know where can I get such ONE unit window? I guess it will have to be made to measure?

Thanks,

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

All good windows are made to measure, only off the peg windows are available from the likes of B&Q and unless you're extremely lucky or you're building an extension for example and can size the opening to suit then they won't cut the mustard. So approach a local supplier and get a made to measure. Local suppliers do not hold any stock its all made to measure. Get them to measure though, there can be more to measuring an than meets the eye.

 

[firapara]

All good windows are made to measure, only off the peg windows are available from the likes of B&Q and unless you're extremely lucky or you're building an extension for example and can size the opening to suit then they won't cut the mustard. So approach a local supplier and get a made to measure. Local suppliers do not hold any stock its all made to measure. Get them to measure though, there can be more to measuring an than meets the eye.

Thanks

So if it is one unit, how do I go about connecting it on top? To the joist? The unit will be 3m long so will need to be connected on top as well.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Do you mean above the head of the window there is a timber joist (effectively a timber lintel)? Why do you think you can't fix into it?

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

You could always employ a Fensa Fitter to supply and fit it!

 

[firapara]

Do you mean above the head of the window there is a timber joist (effectively a timber lintel)? Why do you think you can't fix into it?

Yes, I mean above the window. In my case there is a metal RSJ. Is it safe to drill a couple of small holes and screw the window in?

Thanks,

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Yes. you may need to use frame fixings to allow the window to sit further out than the lintel.

 

[firapara]

Yes. you may need to use frame fixings to allow the window to sit further out than the lintel.

Thanks!

 

[crank39]

The old school window fitter will tell you that you should never screw upwards through the chambers, I can only imagine its because of water ingress, trouble is its not law and most of the old school fitter have retired, every window I see now is screwed upwards and if anyone says owt say Fred said it was ok, self drilling baypole screws should do it

 

[Gazman16]

Building regs sign off is probably going to cost you £120-200. By the time you factor that in diying it will only save you a few £ over getting a Fensa registered company to do it.

Take some approximate sizes along with the pic to some local double glazing company's and ask for some supply only and fitted prices.

We can often supply custom made windows for around the same price as what you would find in a hardware store but the quality will be 10x better.

Also as mentioned the measuring/surveying is critical! There are alot of regulation covering windows that need to be followed.

 

[firapara]

Building regs sign off is probably going to cost you £120-200. By the time you factor that in diying it will only save you a few £ over getting a Fensa registered company to do it.

Take some approximate sizes along with the pic to some local double glazing company's and ask for some supply only and fitted prices.

We can often supply custom made windows for around the same price as what you would find in a hardware store but the quality will be 10x better.

Also as mentioned the measuring/surveying is critical! There are alot of regulation covering windows that need to be followed.

Thanks Gazman, I would have happily paid if the prices I was quoted were affordable. I live in Surrey near London and the price range for this one window supplied and fitted was between £1200 and £1800.

I think you would agree with me that this is way too much for one window. I have a friend in Maidenhead, double-glazing his whole house was £1800.

 

[Gazman16]

Ouch!
Down here in Somerset I would charge about £450-600 fitted for a window like that (depending on the final specs).

Ok your windows have vents so your new window must also have 2 trickle vents. If the window is within 800mm of the floor you must also have toughened glass.

As a Fensa company we can replace a window like for like but when being signed off by building control you may have to change the design of the window to side openers with fire egress hinges to give the modern fire escape size (maybe even 2 double side openers with flying mullions) speak to your local building control before placing your final order if you do diy.

Now that you know the basics you can try finding some prices.
Eurocell have branch's everywhere and sell to the public.
Im not sure what other company's will sell to the public in your area but hopefully some of the other guys here can chip in

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

For general information a replacement window, in terms of emergency egress, must be no worse than its predecessor.