Best paint that money can buy?

[noobiediyer]

Okay, not quite an unlimited budget but let's call it a generous budget.

This is for a residential home with adults and very young kids (no pets and no smoking). Call me boring but I only want pure brilliant white.

I asked a similar question a few years ago and a lot of people recommended Dulux Trade Diamond Matt for the walls and ceilings which was very pricey but I still went ahead and used it. I know that no paint is mark proof but I was disappointed that it marked quite easily. Any kind of scuff with a bag, or clothing has marked it very easily. Even the slightest grubby hand will leave marks. So this paint leaves a lot to be desired.

So hoping that I can get some better recommendations. I need 4 lots of recommendation:
1. Paint for walls and ceilings (matt)
2. Paint for bathroom
3. Paint for kitchen
4. Paint for wood like skirting and architrave (gloss)

Suggestions?

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

We went with Dulux wipeable in the living room here (grey), so you can clean wipe it down and it's supposed to be resistant to scuffs etc or that's the idea anyway, there seemed to be some negative reviews about applying it and applying the second coat but none of that was an issue thankfully, it went on just fine and despite having a couple of feral animals (sorry I mean our darling children) the walls don't seem to have shown up any marks or scuffs, so either it's pretty tough or they've just not really caused any scuffs etc, sorry that's probably not much help. In the last house the whole place was white (my ideal choice too btw) we used Leyland vinyl matt throughout and just gave it a freshen up every so often, on offer a few times a year from Screwfix, I've never used anything but Dulux Satinwood for all timber, never had a problem.

 

[Notch7]

a matt surface is a porous surface -so if you dont want an easily marked surface you are going to need to have a higher gloss level

the quality of the paint is not going to make any discernible difference

if you want decent quality paint choose a trade product like Dulux trade or Johnstones

 

[scbk]

Painting your walls pure brilliant white, that would be a bit much for me!!

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Wow! Just seen the price for 10l of Dulux Diamond Matt £120!!! And I thought the Dulux wipeable was expensive.

 

[Diver Fred]

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I was introduced to this company recently. Very impressed.

O.K. windows I was painting are Matt Black but I have a new frame to be white gloss so I will be trying that out before year end.

 

[noobiediyer]

And with regards to kitchen and bathroom specific paint, are these Dulux options good?

Kitchen: https://www.diy.com/departments/dul...-white-matt-emulsion-paint-2-5l/125826_BQ.prd
Bathroom: https://www.diy.com/departments/dul...-soft-sheen-emulsion-paint-2-5l/125825_BQ.prd

 

[JohnD]

Why do you want a matt paint, which holds the dirt?

 

[noobiediyer]

Why do you want a matt paint, which holds the dirt?

For the kitchen paint?

 

[opps]

Okay, not quite an unlimited budget but let's call it a generous budget.

This is for a residential home with adults and very young kids (no pets and no smoking). Call me boring but I only want pure brilliant white.

I asked a similar question a few years ago and a lot of people recommended Dulux Trade Diamond Matt for the walls and ceilings which was very pricey but I still went ahead and used it. I know that no paint is mark proof but I was disappointed that it marked quite easily. Any kind of scuff with a bag, or clothing has marked it very easily. Even the slightest grubby hand will leave marks. So this paint leaves a lot to be desired.

So hoping that I can get some better recommendations. I need 4 lots of recommendation:
1. Paint for walls and ceilings (matt)
2. Paint for bathroom
3. Paint for kitchen
4. Paint for wood like skirting and architrave (gloss)

Suggestions?

Years ago, I painted my kitchen walls with oil based eggshell. I lined and primed the paper first, then lightly sanded the lining paper to make it flatter. I used Owatrol oil to help me maintain a wet edge. I was extremely happy with the finish, both the aesthetics and durability. I could clean the walls with green scouring pads and the finish was not affected.


Each of the "durable" matt emulsions that I have come across over the years becomes shiny if you use a scouring pad. I warn my customers before applying it...


A massive downside of using oil based eggshell on walls, is that it stinks. Waterbased eggshell might be a better compromise. Upsides- quick drying and not smelly. Downsides- less durable, becomes soft in areas with excessive steam, becomes soft if it comes in to regular contact with oils (including the oils in peoples' skin).

My work is domestic- there may well be specialist paints used in commercial settings that are more appropriate (eg epoxy coatings). Unfortunately, I am not familiar with them but I am sure that they will make Diamond Matt look cheap.

If you are willing to go for an off white, shellac based paints are pretty durable, and about 10% sheen. They are alcohol based and cure extremely quickly, faster than waterbased paints. When working with it, it does smell, but the smell (alcohol) disappears once it becomes touch dry (which is within 15 mins or so). The only thing that you need to keep away from it is ammonia.

I used to recommend Zinsser BIN as a shellac paint but their prices have become silly. Blockade by Smith and Rodger (based in Glasgow) is equal in quality, and far more reasonably priced.

Blockade - Pure Shellac For Ultimate Performance — Smith & Rodger - Paints & Shellacs since 1877

Blockade White Shellac Sealer Primer provides excellent adhesion to almost all interior surfaces such as previously coated and new wood, plaster, drywall, porous wallcoverings, metal and tile and requires minimal preparation before use.

www.smithandrodger.co.uk

 

[DiyNutJob]

Call me boring but I only want pure brilliant white.

You are boring. If you don't want marks, paint it grey. Lots of marks are grey looking, and will blend in.

 

[noobiediyer]

You are boring. If you don't want marks, paint it grey. Lots of marks are grey looking, and will blend in.

Isn't that like someone creating a post on Best Way To Clean Daily Dirt From Hard Floor and the response is to just get carpet instead as then the dirt is hidden?

 

[opps]

You are boring. If you don't want marks, paint it grey. Lots of marks are grey looking, and will blend in.

What are you on?

For what it is worth, darker colours often highlight scuff marks, particularly when those paints are matt.

 

[DiyNutJob]

Isn't that like someone creating a post on Best Way To Clean Daily Dirt From Hard Floor and the response is to just get carpet instead as then the dirt is hidden?

Sounds like a good solution.

Quite obviously white didn't work. Makes sense to change. I have some plaster coloured walls, it's better at hiding damaged plaster.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

What are you on?

I think his petrol yogurt pot storage has been leaking fumes again.