Boeing hid design flaws in Max jets from pilots and regulators

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Those who were defending Boeing and placing the fault on pilots because they were from third world countries. Absolutely wrong as usual.

https://www.ft.com/content/f87d9c5e-51bc-4fee-b268-eafa56340113#comments-anchor


Boeing hid design flaws in its 737 Max jet from both pilots and regulators as it raced to have the aeroplane certified as fit to fly, according to a damning congressional report into why two of the aircraft crashed within months of each other last year, killing 346 people.

In doing so, Boeing concealed from regulators internal test data showing that if a pilot took longer than 10 seconds to recognise that the system had kicked in erroneously, the consequences would be “catastrophic”.


"So these pilots didn't realise that a system they didn't know was on the aircraft, was making changes that it shouldn't have been making, within 10 seconds, the plane was effectively lost.

The fact Bowing knew this and still sold them and then tried to suggest, after the event, that it was due to the pilots and intimating that it was some tin-pot "foreign" airline so probably not maintained properly etc etc. "

Outrageous, I suppose that happens when cutting red tape is your ideology.
 
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I would have thought it amounts to corporate manslaughter. But as said, it's quite old news.
 
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It is old news, and no surprise to many people. But yesterday, the US House of Representatives Transport Committee issued an official report.

https://transportation.house.gov/imo/media/doc/2020.09.15 FINAL 737 MAX Report for Public Release.pdf

Page 137 is interesting.

I imagine Boeing will be sued to ruin.

it is noteworthy that the aviation safety regulator in the country that certified the original aircraft, in this case the US Federal Aviation Administration, did not ground the aircraft until after regulators in other countries had done so. This is most unusual. The same happened with the Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
 
It is old news, and no surprise to many people. But yesterday, the US House of Representatives Transport Committee issued an official report.

https://transportation.house.gov/imo/media/doc/2020.09.15 FINAL 737 MAX Report for Public Release.pdf

Page 137 is interesting.

I imagine Boeing will be sued to ruin.

it is noteworthy that the aviation safety regulator in the country that certified the original aircraft, in this case the US Federal Aviation Administration, did not ground the aircraft until after regulators in other countries had done so. This is most unusual. The same happened with the Boeing 787 Dreamliner.

No chance of that. Also any fine will be less than that of VW.
 
The final report is out today. So it's not old news unless you think it should be buried?



To the best of my recollection, (and I hate to use the term "common knowledge") but, it was common knowledge very early on that Boeing had fiddled the system to get the plane approved as cheaply and expeditiously as possible.

So, yes, it is old news. Unless you are trying to make it about race, for whatever reason.
 
there were also at least 3 documentaries on it. I'm not trying to burry anything I think it was appalling as well as complete manipulation of the rules. At the end of the day, they screwed up the design with bigger engines and then to avoid fixing the handling and therefore needing pilot type approval and training they introduce a gizmo to correct the handling risk without telling pilots, because the whole point was to minimise training and type approval.

cost over safety and then a cover up. If they were HQ'd in the UK and the planes crashed in the US, expect fines in the 10s of billions.
 
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