Boris Johnson promises we leave by 31st Oct do or die

[Notch7]

The clever money is that a general election should be delayed until November.

And let Johnson lose all his Brextremists to the nutter party

Bless

 

[JP_]

I predict "die".

 

[durhamplumber]

Bless

Bless

........off

 

[SirGalahad]

I predict "die".

Do not underestiumate his survival instincts.

https://twitter.com/crimlawuk/status/1169502041313611776

Dominic Cummings (Johnson’s unelected “special adviser”), to a long-standing Tory MP and recent cabinet minister, Greg Clark: “When are you f***ing MPs going to realise, we are leaving on October 31? We are going to purge you.” This is what our government has come to. Enough.

 

[Notch7]

Do not underestiumate his survival instincts

And combined with the press.

Johnson in his first 3 days of parliament has lost 4 votes, lost control of the commons, lost his majority, lost control of the Lords, has a legal case against him ongoing and has been proven to have lied on numerous occasions.

Today the front page headlines are: Corbyn has chickened out of an election.

And the Brexiteers on here are applauding that.

Brexit has been shown to be an utter con, but even though the conmen are now blatantly lying, Brexiteers still believe.

 

[SirGalahad]

And combined with the press.

Johnson in his first 3 days of parliament has lost 4 votes, lost control of the commons, lost his majority, lost control of the Lords, has a legal case against him ongoing and has been proven to have lied on numerous occasions.

Today the front page headlines are: Corbyn has chickened out of an election.

And the Brexiteers on here are applauding that.

Brexit has been shown to be an utter con, but even though the conmen are now blatantly lying, Brexiteers still believe.

Do not understimate the power of the Press.

The billionaire owners have more influence than the vast majority realise. They have manufactured and shaped many of the publics opinions.

 

[SirGalahad]

Proof in point.

https://twitter.com/Claire_Phipps/status/1169527194101719040

A reporter from the Sun has taken "a pink floral blouse" to Jeremy Corbyn's house after Boris Johnson called him "a great big girl's blouse", because we're still in a world in which being "womanly" is a huge insult and a fatal flaw.

The party of Thatcher and May has been reduced to this. Time for real conservatives to take back control of the party.

 

[SirGalahad]

 

[JohnD]

Do not understimate the power of the Press.

The billionaire owners have more influence than the vast majority realise. They have manufactured and shaped many of the publics opinions.

But why on earth would a billionaire media-owner person or company want to influence the country he makes vast amounts of money in?

 

[JohnD]

And how could any puppet seek to help them?

 

[festive]

Whilst alot of pro remain people or are they anti tory or both sit on here posting biased waffle...

Still wondering what the plan is here. Do or die is significant flag waving from Boris to the opposition err I mean remainers err I mean people concerned for our country about no deal

Obviously tactical as it generates energy it's about how he will take this energy feed it into his inverter harnessing this to push the government over the finish line. That is a very pertinent point Fester

The push for a GE the other night of course was intentional fully aware of the odds it's part of the strategy.

Anyway listening on R5live earlier theres alot of opinion for leave on there. Not many remain unless they are pro brexit?

Same message as most of us argue here

A We voted to leave non legally binding but that must be of paramount importance here.
B Both major parties manifesto was to leave (albeit in an orderly fashion)
C its crystal clear no matter what withdrawal agreement is put forward the opposition will oppose it
D it's in the oppositions interest to drag this out as long as possible, gambling this will topple the government.
E Its in the interest of the remainers to drag this out as long as possible to hope Brexit never happens.

Observations
Mark Carney now says we are better prepared for No deal. And theres more that can be done.
English and Welsh support is building for Boris we like a fighter.
We could under article 24 have free trade up to 10years and remember trade its covers only..but first we are supposed to negotiate an agreement with the EU.

BUT The EU must not blink and give us any deal or the EU could fall like a house of cards.

 

[motorbiking]

The circumstances can hardly lead anyone to argue he backtracked on a commitment. I cannot see any would be conservative voter choosing not to vote conservative because of this. I do realise the opposition are trying build leverage, but its unbelievably weak.

 

[JohnD]

...B Both major parties manifesto was to leave (albeit in an orderly fashion)....

When did we vote for a shambles, then?

 

[festive]

When did we vote for a shambles, then?

JohnD

We? You voted for a losing remain vote and a loser party. What's your point apart from sour grapes.

 

[JohnD]

When did we vote for a shambles, then?

We didn't.

Even though that's when fest and buffoon now want us to have.