Can half walls (divider wall between kitchen and dining room) be load bearing

[splreece]

Hi all,

I have a kitchen & dining room at the back of the house that is divided by a half wall (wall goes from exterior wall inwards so there is a gap towards the centre of the house).

I am looking to take the wall out and have an all in one kitchen/dining room.

on pics youll see the door structure in place, i was going to put in an internal door but ideally prefer to open it out and remove the wall altogether.

The rooms are fully decorated and have kitchen elements attached so it is difficult to see any part of the base of the wall and or joist positions etc.

As far as i can see there are no obvious larger elements at the top or base of wall so if there are support elements they maybe under the floor.

I am chasing the structural plans but to no avail, as i need to figure out if it is load bearing.

(i think because it is council and older property that the half wall is cement or brick/block (you get breezeblock colour dust when drilling).

any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

 

[^woody^]

Go upstairs and first look if the wall continues up to the loft.

Then look which way the floor boards are running. If they are running at 90° to the wall then joists are likely not resting on it either.

 

[Mottie]

I think if it was load bearing, there'd be some sort of beam/RSJ above the doorway.

 

[^woody^]

I think if it was load bearing, there'd be some sort of beam/RSJ above the doorway.

Or a trimmer in the floor

 

[Mottie]

Now you've lost me. I don't have a clue what a trimmer is.

 

[Newboy]

 

[Mottie]

Got it. Thanks.

 

[splreece]

Thanks all.... Ive taken a pick of under the floor.

In a nutshell. The wall is not continued upstairs as the rooms upstairs are a different shape. However the pic attachrd shows a large cement girder that looks above or very close to the half wall. However the half wall and the girder (if they are inline) are going in the same direction... So potentially the girder is either resting on top of wall or just not at all as it wouldnt cross the wall since its going the same way.