Changing LED Spotlight with rubber seal

[Geeves]

We had these LED spotlights installed in our en suite bathroom a couple of years ago. One blew a while ago, but recently the other two went and we're currently plunged into darkness. The problem is, I can't figure out how to get the bulb out. They seem to have a rubber seal around the bulb. I've tried to pull it out but don't want to destroy it so I haven't resorted to pliers or anything too aggressive. The bulb doesn't turn or budge if I push on it. Does anyone know if there is a trick or something that I'm missing to get these out so we can replace them?

The screws come down from above (they're not grub screws or anything) and the flanges on the side are for the decorative covers that I've already removed here.

 

[JohnW2]

..... The problem is, I can't figure out how to get the bulb out.

Are you sure that the bulb is removable? A good few such fittings have 'integrated LEDs' which means that when the bulb dies, one has to replace the whole fitting (seems daft to me ).

Kind Regards, John

 

[Murdochcat]

(seems daft to me ).

And not very ecologically sound either. I refuse to fit sealed downlights

OP - Have you tried pushing gently on the bulb with your thumbs and rotating it anto clockwise gently?

or - could you carefully pull it out of the ceiling to see if you can find a make / model number?

 

[Geeves]

Are you sure that the bulb is removable? A good few such fittings have 'integrated LEDs' which means that when the bulb dies, one has to replace the whole fitting (seems daft to me ).

Kind Regards, John

I did not realise this was a thing. I'm going to be pretty <expletive deleted> ... disappointed ... if this turns out to be the case.

 

[Geeves]

And not very ecologically sound either. I refuse to fit sealed downlights

OP - Have you tried pushing gently on the bulb with your thumbs and rotating it anto clockwise gently?

or - could you carefully pull it out of the ceiling to see if you can find a make / model number?

Yeah, I've tried pretty much every combination/level of non-destructive force at this point.

 

[SFK]

Pull the whole unit out - it is likely held in by two big springs.
Fingernails under black rim, curl hands so middle joints on fingers (which it turns out I have no idea what they are called) push against ceiling and pull with joints pushing against ceiling (this is all to minimise loading on plasterboard by the springs). When you get about a one cm gap, put your fingers under black rim and slowly pull again.

So you have an idea of what you are pulling out, it could/should look like this:

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Show us a photo of it pulled out (also showing the cable) and we may be able to suggest a better/easier replacement that has replaceable bulb. .

>>> proximal interphalangeal joint (PIP) – the joint in the middle of the finger.

SFK

 

[JohnW2]

I did not realise this was a thing.

It's becoming increasingly common - as I said, seemingly daft/ridiculous to me! ... a bit like a car with .non-replaceable' wheels/tyres !

I'm going to be pretty <expletive deleted> ... disappointed ... if this turns out to be the case.

..in which case you would have my sympathies, and you certainly would not be alone in your thoughts/feelings. Let's hope that it isn't the case with your 'fitting'.

For future reference, beware of the word "integrated" in relation to light fittings!

Kind Regards, John

 

[EFLImpudence]

It's becoming increasingly common - as I said, seemingly daft/ridiculous to me! ... a bit like a car with .non-replaceable' wheels/tyres !

Or - sealed-beam headlights.

 

[JohnW2]

Or - sealed-beam headlights.

Indeed, but they have been around, and an expensive pain, for decades

 

[Geeves]

Thanks for all your help, everyone. It turns out I am indeed very ... disappointed.

 

[JohnW2]

Thanks for all your help, everyone. It turns out I am indeed very ... disappointed.

Sorry to hear that - but at least you now know how to avoid similar disappointment in the future.

Kind Regards, John