China involved in all of this....

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It has said from the beginning of this war that China is involved in this... lots of trade deals negotiations going on between russia/china before the invasion...apparently Russia asked china to delay the invasion until after the Olympics?? and now China,s right holder will NOT broadcast todays PL games over the support of the invasion.....
 
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I don’t see China benefiting much from supporting Russia.

what trade deals can it do -Russia only has a $1trillion economy, about size of Spain

in fact the Eastern block countries, Poland etc have a gdp adding up to similar to Russia
 
Yes,,,,, the EU is /was a bigger trading partner for Russia but Russia has been planning this invasion and looking for a trading partner before this happened..
China is currently the biggest single market for russian exports ...... and russia has started to ramp that up with trade deals before invasion
 
Life happens when you make plans

imo Russian planning / thinking

did not expect this level of resistance

thought it would be a Crimea type walk in ???
 
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China hasn't said much about the situation other than they have sympathy due to them feeling somewhat hemmed in too. They have said they wont supply Russia with weapons.

Hemmed in. Cases we know about. HS2, 5G and nuke stations. They have lent some countries money. They have done work in some as well. Seems they have installed more green energy than any one else has in total. Perhaps some of it isn't in China.
 
Putin is an old Soviet Cold Warrior who will have studied Stalinist techniques in his career, which included the invasions of Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, with overwhelming power and disgusting brutality.

in his formative years he heard about the Russian Empire's invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia with overwhelming military force, they gave in with hardly a struggle. He was probably expecting Ukraine to do the same.

A domineering boss who will brook no disagreement or criticism runs the risk of being surrounded by yes-men who tell him what he wants to hear.

When he made all his commanders stand up and individually declare their support for the Ukrainian invasion, some of their voices broke and some stumbled over the words in their script. None dared disagree.

There is an old Russian joke about Krushchev in the post-Stalin era.
 
Nobody dared contradict Stalin the First, and lived, until after his death.

We now have Vlad the Invader, Stalin the Second.
 
what trade deals can it do -Russia only has a $1trillion economy, about size of Spain
That is nonsense.

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Widen your thinking a little bit more!! I will help you with that by a simple question: can Spain produce what Russia can?
The answer is NO, Spain’s GDP is mostly about services, Russia GDP is not.
Russia is one of the few countries (and I mean really few), who can produce domestically everything from a screwdriver to space rockets, tanks, jet fighters, airplanes, fridges, TVs, cars, and the only country to have a fleet of icebreakers that can navigate through the north pole as if it were a highway. Spain, on the other hand, cannot produce everything that Russia can, even though they have a similar GDP. That’s because GDP or GDP PPP are measured by quantity of goods produced by country.

So, for example, let’s say Spain produces only olives (50 tons) and they sell them for 1 $ billion, Russia is producing 10 tons of olives and 1 tank, 1 space rocket, one TV and selling them for 1$ billion. The GDP here is the same, it’s 1$ billion dollars. But of course you can clearly see who is stronger here, simply because Russia can during an emergency or a war or in case of a demand raise the production much much easier than Spain can diversify its production from olives to tanks
 
Nobody dared contradict Stalin the First, and lived, until after his death.

We now have Vlad the Invader, Stalin the Second.

they reckoned that they were so frightened if Stalin that people were reluctant to enter his room when he did not answer (he was dead)

he was that ruthless that his own son committed suicide in a German POW camp

the Germans offered to swap his son for a high ranking German general who was in captivity

stalin refused any such deal

he employed blocking units at the front

Russian troops had a choice charge the German lines and succeed or get killed

retreat and get machined gunned by your own side
 
That is nonsense.

Quote.

Widen your thinking a little bit more!! I will help you with that by a simple question: can Spain produce what Russia can?
The answer is NO, Spain’s GDP is mostly about services, Russia GDP is not.
Russia is one of the few countries (and I mean really few), who can produce domestically everything from a screwdriver to space rockets, tanks, jet fighters, airplanes, fridges, TVs, cars, and the only country to have a fleet of icebreakers that can navigate through the north pole as if it were a highway. Spain, on the other hand, cannot produce everything that Russia can, even though they have a similar GDP. That’s because GDP or GDP PPP are measured by quantity of goods produced by country.

So, for example, let’s say Spain produces only olives (50 tons) and they sell them for 1 $ billion, Russia is producing 10 tons of olives and 1 tank, 1 space rocket, one TV and selling them for 1$ billion. The GDP here is the same, it’s 1$ billion dollars. But of course you can clearly see who is stronger here, simply because Russia can during an emergency or a war or in case of a demand raise the production much much easier than Spain can diversify its production from olives to tanks


You are spouting bolox.
Russia In terms of technology and innovation, Russia scores better than average (rank: 39/100), but is below most other G20 countries. It also lacks integration with the global economy—Russia ranks 49/100 in terms of global trade and investment





Spain
Spain is fast becoming a leader in innovation and generating advanced solutions in the industries of aerospace, renewable energies, water treatment, rail, biotechnology, industrial machinery and civil engineering

by the way Spain has 3x gdp per capita
 
, Russia scores better than average (rank: 39/100), but is below most other G20 countries
That is why the Americans were using Russian rocket motors.
Use your head Notch, Russia is a resource rich superpower.
Apparently Russia contains 30% of the worlds natural resources.
There is no comparison between Spain and Russia.
Without the money they get from British expats living there, Spains economy would tank.
 
Vinty is a great supporter of Stalinism.
It saved Europe from fascists in WW2.
If we were waiting for the Americans to defeat Hitler, then the war would still be going on.
 
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