CLPD application

[pgmaverick]

Hi,

I am planning to do submit a certificate of lawful development for my rear dormer replacement with larger dormer.

I want know experts on this forum if i can submit the certificate of lawful development myself. Is it an easy process to do it?

Can I increase the dormer size under permitted development?

 

[blup]

If you're clear on pd rights the form should not only be simple but unnecessary.

 

[pgmaverick]

How to be clear on pd rights? The property is not in conservation area, listed building etc.
To me, I'm in my pd rights but hard to prove without CLPD.

 

[stevie888]

My council to clients has always been to get the document. Strictly it isn't necessary as Blup says BUT LAs don't like anything to do with loft conbversions as a general rule and do tend to fight them where they can.

You can certainly do it yourself: the process is simple enough and cheap and when the children come to sell the place to put you into a home they will have no planning issues

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Ignoring the whole should you shouldn't you argument, when applying for a LDC it's imperative that you make sure every PD aspect is clarified, if you leave any ambiguity they may refuse it. So just ensure your drawings or any documents you include refers to every rule in the legislation, you can write them as bullet points for example:

• no part of the development shall exceed the height of the highest part of the existing roof
• no part of the development will extend beyond the plane of any existing roof slope which forms the principal elevation of the dwellinghouse and fronts a highway

etc

Trust you've read the technical guidance: https://assets.publishing.service.g...cdb2c9e9/190910_Tech_Guide_for_publishing.pdf

 

[^woody^]

Be aware that LDC application is not an application for permission, but merely asking if a specific thing built in a specific way to specific dimensions will be lawful.

You get a "yes" or "no" answer to the details you provide.

That's it.

 

[pgmaverick]

Be aware that LDC application is not an application for permission, but merely asking if a specific thing built in a specific way to specific dimensions will be lawful.

You get a "yes" or "no" answer to the details you provide.

That's it.

Does that mean if it's a 'no' answer then we can challenge it or amend the plan to get a 'yes'.

I'm confused so need some help as it giving me hard time. Let me explain my situation.

I purchased a semi detached house 6 months back. The property already has small rear dormer (4m wide*2 height*1.2length) with roof converted from hip to gable. This was done under planning permission dated 2006 by previous owners. I don't have old approved plans and even harrow council website don't have it.

I just want to replace dormer with larger dormer with dimension (6m wide*2.5high*2 length)

Fyi- my building renovation work is starting tomorrow as 5-6 weeks time loft can be started

What are my options?
1) Do the construction under PD and get building regs approved.
2) Apply certificate of lawful development prior to work
3) Apply certificate of lawful development after the completion

@freddiemercurystwin @^woody^ @stevie888

 

[stevie888]

What you need to do is check the total proposed proposed volume added to the original roof (assuming the current dormer is post 1946) So the volume of the hip to gable plus the total dormer.If less than 50cum and the other constraints apply you're good to go.

Defo get BR sorted ahead of build: cheaper and safer

 

[pgmaverick]

I can see problems with it.
1) Council has no plans on website for dormer planning application. Only decision available. To find exact volume is tricky. Any suggestions?
2) Even if some I find out volume added in 2006 as part of planning application, As I'm adding new dormer then it gonna increase volume. Does it require any paperwork apart from building control?

 

[^woody^]

Does that mean if it's a 'no' answer then we can challenge it or amend the plan to get a 'yes

You can challenge the decision, but your question "can I amend it" implies that you don't understand what the application is about.

At a fundamental level, you present a proposal to the council and ask "Is this lawful?". To which the council replies "Yes" or "No". End of application.

If the answer is "no" or is going to be "no", you can't start asking "well, what about this? " or "what if...? If you want to go down that route, you need to make a planning application.

Dormers should be relatively straightforward to work out if they can be built under PD or not. The criteria is widely published.

You need to be mindful that much of the criteria for PD references the original roof, not any extended roof.