Common practice or just downright laziness?

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Hi all,

Throughout this renovation project of mine I've had cause to lift several floorboards throughout the house in order to replace / add cables etc.

I expected to find bits and bobs under the floor such as little offcuts of cable, some wood splinters etc. However, in places I've found metres and metres of cable which has been cut at both ends but not removed (and it was easy to remove). I've also found old sockets and light switches and, even more bizarrely, yesterday I found an old ceiling rose. Yesterday I also found a couple of squashed MK boxes and four large plastic wrappers, in the same part of the floor that has a big bundle of cables appearing from the CU below. To me this is a danger. OK, it's unlikely but surely it's not a good idea to leave combustible material lying on top of a bundle of cables. Should they overheat for whatever reason, the combustibles provide a good base for a fire.

Also, as mentioned, I can understand why a small offcut of cable, or a couple of nails etc would be left under floorboards but is there really any excuse for removing a socket or switch from a wall or a rose from a ceiling or the packaging from new accessories and purposefully putting it under the floorboards and leaving it there? Surely it would be just as easy to throw it in a plastic bag?

I would have thought that minimising the amount of junk would be simple good practice. Obviously I wouldn't expect anyone to go out of their way to clean up a hidden area but surely expecting someone not to add to the junk isn't unreasonable! Or is it? Do I expect too much?

I've also found some more cables that are in permanent contact with central heating pipes. Seriously, whoever did work on this house previously is a complete muppet.

As the saying goes - if you want something doing properly, do it yourself (with advice where necessary).

Regards

Fred
 
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Just to add, I'm not saying someone should go out of their way to clear the area under the floorboards but if it's removable with little or no effort then shouldn't it be removed?

I've also pulled about 10 metres of old copper pipe from under the floor which was once used when there was a water cylinder in the house and is no longer connected to anything. Now this wasn't all that easy to remove but needed to come out in places anyway so I could install ducting for my cooker chimney hood. It's now in my scrap copper pile along with a whole load of scrap cable and other bits of copper and some cylinders salvaged from friends houses.
 
Its kind of lazy, but I guess this kind of thing is going to get worse with all the trade waste laws that are coming about now (having to be registered to carry 'waste'*, etc), so its even more troublesome than just paying the bloke at the tip because its trade rather than DIY (or just turning up with an estate car and not a van and chucking it in the skip quickly!...)

Ideally, for red tape free tidyness, it'd go in a rubble bag, be overbagged with a dustbin liner and ask the client to sneak it into the bin on wheels, not strictly the view of those in charge but its better than dumping it on the common after sundown...

Reminds me of the question on one of my 2330 papers "At the end of a job, waste materials should be... " and answers something like "A)removed off site and disposed of reponsibly, B) left for the client to sweep up, C)swept under the floor" There were four but can't really remember the other one

*"Yes, Guv' I'm going to be re-installing these wooden backed wylex boards elsewhere...."
 
i can understand not removing if it was more than a quick pull and cut
with the pipe if it involved lifting floorboard i would'nt think anybody would want the extra cost or inconveniance or mess involved
 
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Theres all sorts of carp under our floorboards, some old VIR singles still clipped to the floorboards, decomissioned years ago. sawdust from joist-busters r us, bits of copper pipe and wire and insulation butts, metal knock-outs. :rolleyes:
 
Taylortwocities said:
Bits of copper pipe? Thats worth real money :LOL:

TTC

Never noticed before, but I had the cover off my CU the other day (house about 7 yrs old) and where the blanks are fitted in the split load board the sparky has cut off the rest of the copper busbar (about 4 inches)
Imagine how much copper he's getting hold of if he's doing that in every house on a site of 1000 or so houses :eek:
 

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