Condensate Trap

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Can anyone tell me if a blocked condensate trap can cause the flexi hose inside boiler to split?
 
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Which flexi hose? Which boiler? The answer is likely to be "no", but a little more info would help
 
The boiler is a Potterton Promax Combi HE Plus 28. Water was leaking from boiler, from further inspection I noticed a split in the flexi hose which connects to the condensate trap and goes up into the boiler.
 
Ah right, no it's not going to be related to a blocked trap, it's just a split hose. Time to get someone out, preferably before you use the boiler again - you shouldn't take the cover off the boiler as it disturbs the room seal, and a split condensate drain can cause flue gases to escape into the casing when the boiler is firing, so it needs attending to ASAP. As you've disturbed the room seal, there's now also potential for the flue gases escaping into the casing to additionally escape into your room, cue potential for carbon monoxide poisoning

Discontinue use of your boiler and call a GSR out
 
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I didn't realise it would do any harm taking the cover off. When an engineer services a boiler, do they have special tools to reseal it? The boiler is located in my garage with plenty of ventilation not in the house. I will keep it switched off until I have the funds to call out an engineer. Do you know how much this will cost?
 
They don't have special tools to re-seal it as such, but they do have the knowledge and experience to be sure that it is refitted correctly, and a combustion performance analyser to check that flue system integrity and check that CO isn't being produced. Call out fees vary a lot according to where you are in the country, so I can't really answer that I'm afraid, could be anywhere between £35 and £95, maybe more if you're in central London. The part is about £10 to buy
 
Boiler parts like that are usually about £10-£20 and an engineer might charge about £50-£90 to come and fit it and check the correct functioning of your boiler depending on where you are located.

Tony
 
Many thanks for your replies. One more question, can anything on the boiler cause the hose to split or do they just split over time? The boiler is only 5 years old.
 
Most split corogated condense hoses I see are because the hose is touching a pipe inside the boiler and is there fore getting heated and cooled causing it to go brittle. Seen it on many models
Can't picture the hose in that model but most are grey corrogated plastic.
 
It is grey, similar to a washing machine flexi hose. I know I should get an expert in but don't have the money at the moment. Would it cause problems if I put waterproof tape around the split for a short term solution until I can get someone round in a couple of days. I need heating as I have a 4 year old.
 
The problem is a muggles said.
You don't have the equipment to test that it's is not leaking gases.
If it were to be leaking gases the levels of carbon monoxide will rise dramatically and quickly to dangerous levels.
I'm with muggles. From a Saftey point of view I'd have to recommend that you don't use it.
I appreciate you want some heat and hot water for your family. But without being too dramatic a cold family is better than a dead family.
What area of the country are u in? Many gas engineers now carry card machines and could take a credit card.
 
It is grey, similar to a washing machine flexi hose. I know I should get an expert in but don't have the money at the moment. Would it cause problems if I put waterproof tape around the split for a short term solution until I can get someone round in a couple of days. I need heating as I have a 4 year old.

The question you need to ask yourself is - "Do I trust my waterproof tape to prevent carbon monoxide entering my home and killing my family?".

I certainly wouldn't. And be aware that CO builds up in your blood and takes a few days to get rid of, so just using the boiler occasionally can be every bit as deadly as having it on all the time. It'll still kill you, it'll just take longer to do it. Find someone who's happy to take a credit card or give you a couple of weeks grace on paying. My terms are payment within 14 days of invoice, for example
 
I totally understand what you are saying and appreciate your advice, I was hoping that the boiler being in the garage which is well ventilated would be ok (if it was in the house I would be very concerned). I will leave the boiler off until I can get an expert to come. I don't have a credit card so will have to wait. Many thanks for all your advice.
 
Thanks muggles, I will try and find someone who is happy to invoice.
 
We can't advise you that it's safe to use in your will ventilated garage I'm afraid, that would be professionally irresponsible and if someone was killed as a result of that advice we'd be liable for manslaughter

What you decide to do as a result of your own judgement is up to you, but you'd be liable for manslaughter if you used it and someone died too (unless that someone was you, in which case you'd just be dead!)
 

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