Connecting a Generator

[Lectrician]

Stumbled on this yesterday - I was not involved in it's use or construction - I just spotted it while working in the building.......

 

[ericmark]

Very common abroad. Walk around the shops in a Turkish village and can be seen near every shop entrance. Very few reports of it going wrong. seems they are able to follow the correct switch off mains plug in and start and switch of geny, unplug and switch on mains after without a problem.

Problem in this country people are use to everything being safe and don't take the care required.

 

[holmslaw]

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[ban-all-sheds]

No, because there is a reasonable and safer alternative.

There is also a depressing tendency, particularly with electricians it seems, to assume that if you provide a means for people to kill themselves by behaving stupidly they will eagerly do that rather than exercising a bit of common sense and pausing for a little while to think things through.

 

[Spark123]

Or more to the point, from an electricians POV that if you are involved with setting something like that up and they get a shock they'll be on the phone to the nearest blame claim solicitor.
BTW, aren't they meant to have a ceeform on one end and a BS1636 plug on the other

 

[ericmark]

Problem in this country people are use to everything being safe and don't take the care required.

So all generators should be connected via widowmaker extension leads, just to keep people on their toes.

I got caught out the hard way. I removed a black micro-switch so it would not be smashed as a lid was removed. I had considered it was to protect the plant but it wasn't it was to protect personnel and I was that use to personnel safety switches being yellow or red I never considered anyone would use a black one.

20 years ago I would have checked but today in our heath and safety ruled work place I never bothered I forgot the plant came from Germany where health and safety it seems from imported goods is as it was here 30 years ago. They even have reversible plugs where line and neutral can be swapped.

To check everything one would never get anything done can you imagine when the traffic lights go green moving forward to junction and checking traffic has stopped before crossing!
Yet you would never cross an uncontrolled junction without checking.

It would be like wearing a hard hat when on top of a BT pole. Just in case sky falls on their heads!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

To check everything one would never get anything done can you imagine when the traffic lights go green moving forward to junction and checking traffic has stopped before crossing!
Yet you would never cross an uncontrolled junction without checking.

Surely the only people who don't check that all is well for them when the lights are green are the ones who believe that nobody ever jumps red ones?

 

[LoveRocket]

Looks a good setup to me, 16A 240v Ceeforms, 2.5mm Arctic Blue flex... job's a good 'un!

 

[SUNRAY]

Or more to the point, from an electricians POV that if you are involved with setting something like that up and they get a shock they'll be on the phone to the nearest blame claim solicitor.
BTW, aren't they meant to have a ceeform on one end and a BS1636 plug on the other

1636. I guess thats a reversed 13A device.

 

[Spark123]

Darn, you spotted the deliberate mistake

 

[studentspark]

Would someone care to expand on the issues here. Is it the danger of the generator feeding back on to the mains supply

 

[holmslaw]

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[studentspark]

I gather from the other posts that something was not right with the lead.

Having two 'industrial' connectors as they call them at college I presume is the problem, I have no idea why this could be a problem.

I have never looked at one of these connectors yet, am I right in saying that they are not fused?

 

[1john]

I gather from the other posts that something was not right with the lead.

Having two 'industrial' connectors as they call them at college I presume is the problem, I have no idea why this could be a problem.

I have never looked at one of these connectors yet, am I right in saying that they are not fused?

Well assess the risk that would occur if you decided to plug one end of that lead into a live socket. Can you see the problem now?

 

[Grizzly]

I gather from the other posts that something was not right with the lead.

Having two 'industrial' connectors as they call them at college I presume is the problem, I have no idea why this could be a problem.

I have never looked at one of these connectors yet, am I right in saying that they are not fused?

More to do with the gender of the connectors, and why that lead would be called a 'widowmaker' in certain circles.