Corner Brick Pier

[A_Novice]

Hi guys,

I've almost got my building reg drawings completed for my 1st floor extension over existing garage. I have chosen to have it timber framed with tile hanging at the front and side to match in with the existing house.

I did want a corner brick pier on the 1st floor to match in with the one on the existing house and to break up the mass of tiling and box look that we might have.

How would a brick pier be constructed in this scenario? Could the detail just be fake so it gives the impression of an actual pier?

Quite basic questions I know sorry.

Thanks

 

[^woody^]

It would not be necessary to detail a pier as the bonding is such a basic thing.

However, when you say you want this on the first floor, then you would need to illustrate what's holding it up from the ground floor unless you are corbelling the brickwork.

 

[stuart45]

Have you got a cross wall construction house?

 

[A_Novice]

It would not be necessary to detail a pier as the bonding is such a basic thing.

However, when you say you want this on the first floor, then you would need to illustrate what's holding it up from the ground floor unless you are corbelling the brickwork.

Thanks Woody

Underneath will be a steel to hold up the first floor. This will run from the flank wall to the house. The first floor will be set back 0.5m.

Is it probably more trouble trying to have than it's worth?

It's not an absolute must have but was looking for something in the corner to avoid the box effect that may be caused.

 

[A_Novice]

Have you got a cross wall construction house?

I have absolutely no idea

 

[pilsbury]

Depending on what's underneath to support a real brick pier, you could use brick slips to fake it.

 

[A_Novice]

Depending on what's underneath to support a real brick pier, you could use brick slips to fake it.

Yeah that could be a good way. The pitched roof above the garage is going to extend all the way to the new windowsill so there wouldn't be much to fake.

To be honest for the amount of brick that will be visible it might not even be worth it

 

[^woody^]

Draw a rectangle. Employ a builder that has a bit of a clue how to build. Job's a good 'en.

 

[John D v2.0]

Draw a rectangle. Employ a builder that has a bit of a clue how to build. Job's a good 'en.

That's optimistic and risky! How are you supposed to compare quotes, and how is the builder supposed to know what others are quoting for?

 

[tony1851]

Instead of doing the side in tile-hanging on timber frame, why not do the side gable wall in brick/block and just do a one-and-a-half brick return at the front corner?
And why do the extension in timber frame anyway? It might work out more expensive than brick and block because most builders are not as familiar with timber framing methods.

 

[^woody^]

That's optimistic and risky! How are you supposed to compare quotes, and how is the builder supposed to know what others are quoting for?

Because it's just a pier!

 

[A_Novice]

Instead of doing the side in tile-hanging on timber frame, why not do the side gable wall in brick/block and just do a one-and-a-half brick return at the front corner?
And why do the extension in timber frame anyway? It might work out more expensive than brick and block because most builders are not as familiar with timber framing methods.

Thanks Tony.

Went for timber frame to maximise the space really and was told it'll be easier to construct off of the flank wall like that.

Same reason I didn't go for a brick outer leaf and just tile hanging.

To be honest I've spoken to so many people I have no idea what the right way is. May be that's the beauty of all this - there isn't a right way.

We are going to live in the property while the work is happening so if they can get the timber frame up fast and water tight hopefully that will help us.

I think building regs are almost done so can't really change too much on them now.

 

[tony1851]

Another way to get maximum width in the extension is to remove what is now the outer skin of the gable wall.

 

[A_Novice]

Right. Is that something that would be detailed on the building regs?

I have no idea how much detail they are supposed to go into and how much the builder just gets on with?

 

[John D v2.0]

Because it's just a pier!

Ah sorry thought you meant in general! Yes makes sense!