Corner Plot Outbuilding Side Garden Permission Required?

[Mazle]

Hi guys

My corner plot neighbours are building a outbuilding, that I was not informed about. I don't have issue with them building one long as planning permissions allows for it. I have attached my crude digram of how things look.

As you can see the outbuilding (hight appears to 2.5m) is pretty much right in front the window (front of house).

- Does the 45 degree rule apply here?
- Also it appears quite close maybe 1.5 - 3 meters from window, its made out of wood, fire risk?
- 1m from the road, road safety? (with pavement its probably around 2m)
- I can see into the outbuilding windows, I imagine they can do the same.

I have asked the council to have a look but not had a response yet.

Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts while I wait for response from local planning.

Thank you

 

[Footsoldier888]

I think if their front door faces the other road then unfortunately you may be the victim of some poorly crafted planning laws. I am not 100% sure by any means though so wait to read what others say.

It would be worth checking to see if their PD rights were removed when they did the extension, if it needed planning.

I don't think fire risk applies because with an outbuilding you are limited as to what can go in it as regards fire risk, ie kitchens and dryers would need pp.

Hopefully someone else will have more positive news.

 

[Mazle]

thanks @Footsoldier888

The extension is being right now but the planning permission for it did not include outbuilding.

I did find this (Page 16) that suggests planning permission should be required https://assets.publishing.service.g...der_Technical_Guidance__-April_2017_FINAL.pdf

Because it goes beyond the extension building line?

 

[tony1851]

That would be permitted development, assuming the height criteria were met, and assuming the principal frontage of the house is facing the road on the left.

For Building Regs; no application would be necessary if it is under 30 sq m, but if it is within 1m of your boundary, it should be constructed of substantially non-combustible material.

The 'extension building line' is irrelevant.

 

[Notch7]

An outbuilding cant be nearer to the road than part of the house, although I guess in this case that may only apply to the road in front of the house, not the road behind the outbuilding.

 

[tony1851]

The actual wording is that it is not permitted development if :

"any part of the building.... would be situated on land forward of a wall forming the principal elevation of the original dwelling house".

 

[Notch7]

The actual wording is that it is not permitted development if :

"any part of the building.... would be situated on land forward of a wall forming the principal elevation of the original dwelling house".

Thanks for the info.

Ive always found it confusing when trying to determine what is the principal elevation, especially on rural properties where the obvious front of the house might be at the side or back.

Also, the same thing where a house might be on a privately owned road.

 

[RichA]

You could check if permitted development rights were removed when they applied for their extension.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

I don't have issue with them building one long as planning permissions allows for it.

Why do you care if you don't have an issue?

 

[Mazle]

Had forgotten to update, was cleaning out my password manager and remembered

I sent the local development management an email with some pictures, didn't get any updates/replies but couple of months after building was moved, it is now pretty much touching their extension, maybe 45 degree rule was applied but don't really know.