Crimps or alternate way of joining power lead inside appliance

[kez1]

I am replacing kinked iron cable.
Crimps joining power lead inside iron look like this.

Anyone suggest where to get these or alternative?

 

[rsgaz]

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/crimp-butt-splice-terminals/0534907/
https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/crimp-butt-splice-terminals/2050710/

Do you know what CSA the wires are you need to join?

 

[winston1]

Solder the wires.

 

[RF Lighting]

Yeah solder inside something that gets really hot seems like a great idea. I wonder why the manufacturers who know how to design their products didn’t do that.

 

[conny]

Yeah solder inside something that gets really hot seems like a great idea. I wonder why the manufacturers who know how to design their products didn’t do that.

 

[winston1]

Yeah solder inside something that gets really hot seems like a great idea. I wonder why the manufacturers who know how to design their products didn’t do that.

Well stop wondering and learn about mass production techniques and cost saving.

Consider that tungsten light bulbs have their connections soldered to the base contacts.

Irons run at a temperature below the melting point of solder.

 

[JohnW2]

Irons run at a temperature below the melting point of solder.

That depends on the solder - but, in terms of the solder most likely to be used for electrical work (snippets from Wikipedia) ...

Ironing is the use of a machine, usually a heated tool (an iron), to remove wrinkles from fabric. The heating is commonly done to a temperature of 180–220 °Celsius, depending on the fabric

... and ...

Alloys commonly used for electrical soldering are 60/40 Sn-Pb, which melts at 188 °C (370 °F)

Kind REgards, John

 

[DetlefSchmitz]

I think you'll find they don't use lead any more!

 

[JohnW2]

I think you'll find they don't use lead any more!

They don't, but I think you'll find that the common lead-free has about the same melting point as 60/40 Sn/Pb - which was the first quote I came across in haste. However, if we're being fussy, I'll look it up ........

... The most commonly used lead-free alloy, Sn96.5 Ag3.0 Cu0.5, commonly referred to as SAC 305, has a melting point of 422°F (217°C) to 428°F (220°C).

... so, a bit higher that 60/40 Sn/Pb, but still 'uncomfortable' in the context of an iron!

Kind Regards, John

 

[echoes]

My soldering iron element has soldered connections. Just saying.

 

[JohnW2]

My soldering iron element has soldered connections. Just saying.

Indeed, the same as some of mine - I think all the small Antex ones (as with the ancient Henley ones etc.), and probably many others, have soldered connections to the element. However, I do not know (and somewhat doubt) whether it is 'ordinary' (as opposed to high-melting-point) solder.

Those connections to the element obviously should not, in normal service, get to anything like the operating temp of the iron's tip - but I would still have thought that it would be somewhat 'too close for comfort' (temp-wise) with 'ordinary solder'.

Kind Regards, John

 

[winston1]

Indeed, the same as some of mine - I think all the small Antex ones (as with the ancient Henley ones etc.), and probably many others, have soldered connections to the element. However, I do not know (and somewhat doubt) whether it is 'ordinary' (as opposed to high-melting-point) solder.

Ah yes. I have replaced several such elements, Adcola and Antex, in my working life and ordinary 60/40 solder was used with no problems.

 

[JohnW2]

Ah yes. I have replaced several such elements, Adcola and Antex, in my working life and ordinary 60/40 solder was used with no problems.

So have I, and I too have used 60/40 (since that's all I would have had), again with 'no problems'. However, I do wonder whether that is what will have been used for the original 'factory soldering'.

I clearly must have laid in some very generous stocks of 60/40 solder many years ago, since that's what I am still using for electronics work!

Kind Regards, John

 

[winston1]

However, I do wonder whether that is what will have been used for the original 'factory soldering'.

I believe it probably was as I never had any problems desoldering the original element with (another) ordinary iron.

 

[JohnW2]

I believe it probably was as I never had any problems desoldering the original element with (another) ordinary iron.

Same here. However, although I've had umpteen soldering irons (and still have many of them), none have been 'fancy' ones. In other words, I've never had a soldering iron with any sort of temperature control - and if one leaves such irons on for a while, the tip often gets far hotter than is needed to melt 60/40 solder.

Kind Regards, John