Disguising timber wall bearer

[marsaday]

I am going to be creating a new half landing and i will use timber bearers glued into the wall.

It will only be 800mm wide and i will hange 3 joists between them, but i will need to run the bearers 100mm extra each side in order to accomodate the hanger and have room for a bolt on each end.

So i will need to disguise these bits of timber which stick out - one corner will be hidden by the staircase.

Is it a case of just plaster boarding over them ?

I could chop out the walls and hang the 3 joists into the supporting walls, but this will be tough work and i need to get my floor height at exactly the mid point for the stairs etc. Wood battons and chemical anchors make this much easier.

Ps. Do i need a supporting bolt on the outside of the last joist, or can i just put this bolt inside the last joist. I will however still need a piece of the timber bearer to take the last section of the timber hanger where you put all the nails.

I hope this all makes sense and will explain if it doesnt

 

[simonjay]

I am going to be creating a new half landing and i will use timber bearers glued into the wall.

It will only be 800mm wide and i will hange 3 joists between them, but i will need to run the bearers 100mm extra each side in order to accomodate the hanger and have room for a bolt on each end.

So i will need to disguise these bits of timber which stick out - one corner will be hidden by the staircase.

Is it a case of just plaster boarding over them ?

I could chop out the walls and hang the 3 joists into the supporting walls, but this will be tough work and i need to get my floor height at exactly the mid point for the stairs etc. Wood battons and chemical anchors make this much easier.

Ps. Do i need a supporting bolt on the outside of the last joist, or can i just put this bolt inside the last joist. I will however still need a piece of the timber bearer to take the last section of the timber hanger where you put all the nails.

I hope this all makes sense and will explain if it doesnt

Plasterboard or finishing timber to box in the bearers / joists. No matter if bolt is a short way inside the last joist, as long as the bearer is substantial enough (same size as the joists ?)
Best not to hide the bolts, so they can be tightened if (when) the timbers shrink.
By the way, I think staircase manufacturers may build a half landing as a frame and then bolt into the wall, no hangers involved. Not sure how they would fix they bearer to the joists (long screws / bolts into end grain ?) Think of decking construction.
Simon.

 

[marsaday]

Yes it will be a 175mm x 47mm bearer.

The bolts will be hidden in the floor. so i wont be able to tighten them up again (same as attic).