Does this guy now what he is doing?

[Leonard V]

Hi,
We are having our kitchen refurbished - from complete strip out to new.
I have cincerne about the guy who is doing electrics. I already told him that running cables dioganaly, over the part of the wall that will be tiled, is a no-no.
As I came back from work today, builders already left, I incountered situation as in the attached picture. To me this look completely wrong. Middle part of the cables (they are for spurs to be housed in the top kitchen cabinet) would be covered by tiles?!
I will have to argue with him tomorrow about the need to run them horizontally to within 15cm from the wall corner and then verically up to the spurs' hight, and then into the cabinet from there.
Am I thinking this righ?

 

[johnny2007]

Get him out of your house.
He's not an electrician and those cables need to be passed in safe zones as you said.
Also, how are they going to tile if the cables are not chased in the wall?

 

[ericmark]

Tell the kitchen installers you want an electrician to do the electrics, he is clearly not an electrician, and likely at the end you will find no paperwork to cover the work done.

 

[ETAF]

Those 5 black cables going under the gas pipe

Also isn't there some sort of reg re gas pipes and electrical cables , "distance away", i know when my boiler was Installed , we had electric cable near to the OLD boiler , and when we replaced the boiler and resited , we had to re work the cables so the gas pipe was not impacted by the electric cables, which was easy to do , as we replaced the idea of using a wired themostate and used a different power source and changed to a wireless thermostat, which he paid for , as he said he missed this requirement when he quoted and so was his mistake
BUT Not 100% re the regulation just something our gas safe fitter (and regular plumber, has done this house since the 90's) insisted needs doing and took the cost of the WIFI unit

 

[pete01]

 

[Stuckinarut]

Those 5 black cables going under the gas pipe

Also isn't there some sort of reg re gas pipes and electrical cables , "distance away",

Yes, 25mm away from cables etc and 150mm away from switch gear. I thought post might be a wind up tbh.

 

[flameport]

d situation as in the attached picture.

I have no idea what they were attempting to achieve there - but it's 100% wrong.

 

[333rocky333]

When the spurs are on the end they will form a vertical safe zone, the bottom 700mm or so is likely surface behind units so exempt from being in safe zones

 

[mattylad]

Black T&E?
Where would someone get that and is that new circuitry?
A lot of that wiring looks old?

 

[Murdochcat]

No

 

[Why Not Indeed]

Black T&E?

Of course not, it's RG58. Just don't plug a kettle in to it

 

[SUNRAY]

Black T&E?

Of course not, it's RG58. Just don't plug a kettle in to it

Naahhhh, it's covered in mould from festering in his rotten shed.

 

[bernardgreen]

it was bought on the black market

 

[RandomGrinch]

Black T&E?

Judging by the writing on the wall, the installers are Polish?
I can find plenty of white T&E available at Polish suppliers - I wonder if black is also common there?

It may be interesting to see if the earth conductor is sheathed?

 

[ericmark]

In some ways being so bad, is good, as there is no argument, it's wrong. With my own house I had solar panels fitted, and I think it is non compliant, the RCD protection was removed from the boiler supply, but I have a compliance certificate, and it is through a FCU not plug and socket, so a bit of a grey area. And to be frank, not so sure I want the central heating to fail due to an earth fault.

So you can get hold of the kitchen fitter, and say without any fear of contradiction, this work is sub-standard and shows no warranty of skill, I want it re-done correctly by a scheme member electrician.

There is of course no rules as to safe zones where the cables are left exposed. I am assuming they are not to be left exposed?