Driveway border cement

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Hi all new to the forum. Need some newbie advice. We currently have two borders down the sides of our driveway currently occupied by stones and beneath that is probably the natural ground / soil base material. As we want to park the second car on the drive we want to concrete the area. Will i need to dig down 50mm below the level to compact some type 1 sub base and then apply concrete? Also what ratio should i do the concrete / sand to get a workable product that i can lay? Thanks
 
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...in the mean have you looked into this?
 

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hi thanks for that however i want to stay clear of the stone method from now on.
 
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couldn't find the stuff at a sensible price per sq m-

Give us an idea of what you've found so far... See if I can find a better price.

Why it's expensive I've no idea; it's just glamorised interlocked upside down milk crates! :)
 
I know and its really annoying- best price for the plastic for medium-heavy load was about £10-odd/sq m (when I was looking on Google a year ago)- which sounds fine till you add the geotex and excavation depth (= skips to lose spoil) and other bits and bobs and suddenly for the 50 sq m I need to do it gets a bit pricey- near concrete price as it goes.
 
Hi Andy
Heres my advice if you want it.

You will probably need 100 mm of good quality concrete for the hardstanding, equally important with concrete slabs is the ground beneath that is bearing the slab.. a specified job for a driveway could easily be
1.Excavate 250mm below finished surface, more if still in organic layer (topsoil)
2. Possibly geotextile membrane, however this is only nessessary if the ground can be displased with the heel of your boot!! and then with a concrete slab is is primarily there to allow stone to be compacted (wackered/rolled) without puddinging the soil below.
3. oversite 150mm of type 1 or good quality reclaimed (40mm to dust size) hardcore. grade as nessessary and compact thoroughly.
4 Set up any shuttering/ road formers etc.
5 Pour , level, screed, finish concrete with desired surface ( brush finish, tamp finish, powerfloat)

However, I find when doing what i think is a smallish job like yours I would excavate to the subsoil, if you have gone through the organic soil, are more than 4 inches deep, and this is good ground I would clean off and lay concrete directly onto subsoil, remember that when you introduce stone and compact you are merely trying to uniform the undersurface, on small jobs like this I would work at 100mm minimum for concrete thickness, wouldnt worry if the ground underneath is underlating..the concrete wont mind at all...cost of hiring wacker, buying and transporting small quantities of stone, the labour cost etc... it is more cost effective to mix additional concrete ( although in all fairness the size and conditions really depend on this).
 

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