Electric tariffs and special rates for EV users.

[ericmark]

The EV user gets 5 hours at 7p per kWh for off-peak, and people with solar and batteries get 3 hours at 15.45p per kWh. Octopus prices, why?

With British Gas they will give solar panel and battery owners the EV tariff, it was 8.95p per kWh but seems coming down to 7.9p per kWh, so just a little more expensive to have BG EV rate with no payment for export (£100 per year) to getting paid for export with Octopus because Octopus will not all me the EV rate.

So why can EV users pay less for electric?

 

[Rodders53]

Supply and Demand?

Do / can any EV tariff suppliers check one has an EV? (Octopus potentially can if its one of a few supported vehicle brands).

We have just got a BEV and it's not in their list for Intelligent Octopus. Octopus tariff was more than my existing supplier's anyway. That supplier have started trialling an "intelligent" option (they control when one can charge the vehicle) that also doesn't support my vehicle, so I miss out on a year of £10 a month trialist cashback. That is so unfair.

 

[Nintendofan]

Supply and Demand?

Do / can any EV tariff suppliers check one has an EV? (Octopus potentially can if its one of a few supported vehicle brands).

We have just got a BEV and it's not in their list for Intelligent Octopus. Octopus tariff was more than my existing supplier's anyway. That supplier have started trialling an "intelligent" option (they control when one can charge the vehicle) that also doesn't support my vehicle, so I miss out on a year of £10 a month trialist cashback. That is so unfair.

E.on don't require you to have an EV to use their EV tariff but the daytime rate is normally higher on an EV tariff so depends on usage if its worth changing too.

 

[ericmark]

It did seem that Octopus needed details of both the car and charge unit. I can see how having control of when the power is used, can help the supplier, but the 7p to 15.45p is over double. So, wonder if governments are pumping money into the tariff?

Also, what would happen if someone sells their EV, is there a way to get this very low rate?

 

[Nintendofan]

It did seem that Octopus needed details of both the car and charge unit. I can see how having control of when the power is used, can help the supplier, but the 7p to 15.45p is over double. So, wonder if governments are pumping money into the tariff?

Also, what would happen if someone sells their EV, is there a way to get this very low rate?

I'm on E.on, one of the cheapest EV tariffs 6.7p off peak for 7 hours

 

[Rodders53]

E.on don't require you to have an EV to use their EV tariff but the daytime rate is normally higher on an EV tariff so depends on usage if its worth changing too.

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So it might interest Eric with his installation as they explicitly permit solar/storage and/or EV.

It's the tariff I'm on. The day rate is pretty punitive if one doesn't use enough in the off peak periods to compensate and varies with location/postcode (27.2 p for me).

 

[ericmark]

I'm on E.on, one of the cheapest EV tariffs 6.7p off peak for 7 hou

Eligibility
You can join Next Drive Fixed V6 if:
You have an electric car.
• You own or lease an Electric car.
• Not got an electric charger spot? Get an EV Charger quote once you have signed up to our tariff.

It seems you were lucky?

We will use these assumptions in your quote* for Next Drive.
• You’ve had your EV for 12 months or more.
• You drive an average of 8,000 miles a year.
• Your battery capacity is 70 kWh.
*Don’t worry if this does not fit your EV profile, you can still join the tariff we’ll just use it to estimate your initial quote to get you started. You’ll only be charged for the energy that you use.

Maybe I should not have the EV tariff with BG? And maybe it is because I have the EV tariff that I can't get paid for export?

 

[Rodders53]

EoN Next Drive specifically permits Solar/Battery OR EV OR even both. Read the EoN Community company representative's response I linked to above.

I know nothing about export payments for solar. Back in the early days export payments were frequently from a different energy company to the energy supplier for an address...

YOU need to read the T&Cs for existing and potential alternatives. And also for how exports work, https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/environmental-and-social-schemes/smart-export-guarantee-seg
Or go to a forum where there are many similar users (MSE Forums, perhaps?) for some more accurate advice than I can give.

NB A working Smart Meter with 30 minute readings is essential for that EoN tariff.

 

[ericmark]

Thanks for the link, British Gas have never said they will not pay for export, but they have dragged their heals, excuse after excuse for not paying me, last year 2625 kWh exported, and I estimate moving will only save me £150 so at 5.7p per kWh for export I would break even. And since battery now bigger, likely less than that.

But to get the Flux, you need solar and battery, so what is the difference in having a 6.4 kWh battery to a 64 kWh battery for the supplier? And a car is not connected 24/7, where a battery connected to the solar inverter is.