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[securespark]

Orgreave.

Rudd has ruled out an inquest.

Nothing to do with then then Government using the Police as Militia?

BBC news had, of all people, On Yer Bike Tebbitt supporting the decision.

He was in the then Government, wasn't he?

Bunch of shysters.

 

[EFLImpudence]

What a surprise!

 

[Doug99]

I don't see any issue here. If there was something to hide why wait until now to ask the question? Previous Labour governments didn't seem to have any need to open an investigation so why should we bother now?

 

[noseall]

I don't see any issue here. If there was something to hide why wait until now to ask the question?

Perhaps the Hillsborough inquiry will encourage more rozzers to tell the truth.

 

[Newboy]

I don't see any issue here. If there was something to hide why wait until now to ask the question? Previous Labour governments didn't seem to have any need to open an investigation so why should we bother now?

Because what happened at Orgreave was a bloody disgrace

 

[Doug99]

Because what happened at Orgreave was a bloody disgrace

I couldn't agree more. A bunch of strikers preventing workers going about their business.

 

[securespark]

So the authorities were squeaky clean, then?

NO. Thatcher was adamant that the strikers were going to be punished, so she ordered the police to go far beyond their remit in order to smash them.

 

[Doug99]

It was Scargill that made things personal, not Thatcher

So the authorities were squeaky clean, then?

NO. Thatcher was adamant that the strikers were going to be punished, so she ordered the police to go far beyond their remit in order to smash them.

It was Scargill that made things personal, not Thatcher.

 

[EFLImpudence]

No it wasn't.


No it wasn't.

 

[securespark]

Thatcher was apoplectic with rage over the defiance of the miners. She could not abide what they were doing and completely overstepped the mark.

That is why Rudd has made a flat denial that there is anything to investigate, stating there were no miscarriages of justice.....

The people need to make their voices heard to the Government and reverse this disgraceful decision.

 

[vera121]

The fight against the miners was purely political. The moronic Sun and Daily Mail readers ought to read this book; The Enemy Within: The Secret War Against the Miners by Seumas Milne. They might learn something.

 

[bernardgreen]

My in laws lived in South Wlaes and through them I met several miners. While one or two were very pro Scargill and his desire to topple the elected government most of them were very concerned that Scargill was using miners as cannon fodder in his fight against Thatcher. In private these miners spke against Scargill but would never have said anything like it in public.

It was also said that Scargill's hence men had employed Rent-a-Mob and other agitators and dissadents to increase the numbers of "miners". The agitators were hired to wind up the emotions in the genuine miners and then kept out of police reach when the battle began. Miners were arrested, few if any of the agitaters were arrested.

I have no evidential proof that this happened but the miners I spoke to were very sure that the trouble was incited by people who were not miners but were there claiming to be miners.

 

[JohnD]

hired

This rumour has been widely circulated, and you are still circulating it today, but, as you admit, I don't know of any evidence having ever been produced.

Which is curious, considering that all the forces of the State, including MI5, Special Branch, GCHQ and the Murdoch Press were used against the strikers.

A reaction to Thatcher's Police State arose from the citizens working in some of these organisations, who thought they had joined up to combat a Soviet invasion, and found themselves required to take sides in an industrial dispute.

 

[bernardgreen]

who thought they had joined up to combat a Soviet invasion,

Have you considered the possibility that the soviet " invasion " was soviet financed industrial unrest to undermine the UK economy enough to have the Conservative government ousted by the public and then replaced with a government more aligned to soviet policies and trade requirements.

 

[JohnD]

Yes, that's a really funny story. Did you know that the UK Communist Party was so thoroughly infiltrated, that an MI5 officer had a key to the safe where the membership applications were kept, and took copies of them every week when the office was empty?