There are 6 flats above a shop. All 6 flats and the shop are fed from a consumer unit in the shop (not ideal if shop is shut!) the consumer unit has 12 rewireable fuses and then a separate fusebox with 2 rewireable fuses and an mcb and there are 3 electricity meters. Not sure what is doing what cos I couldn't get permission to check. In order for the flats to pass a periodic does each flat need to have a meter and fuseboard? Or is there any other way around this cos elec board have quoted nigh on £60k to install separate meters for each flat.
Flats above a shop. Help!
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6 flats !!! above a shop ?
Is it woolworths ?
Is it woolworths ?
60K ?!
Landlords can (I'm fairly sure, but somebody will correct me if not) install meters, coin meters and key meters themselves (by using an electrician rather than the eleco direct). But - you probably need to use eleco for direct-charge meters where they bill the resident.
I bet they'll revise prices if you can get all the wiring in place first and just let them do final connection, so chat to them if you can get through to someone sensible.
Others will advise on the periodic requirement for landlords, but I imagine being able to safely isolate your own supply is a bit of a given.
Landlords can (I'm fairly sure, but somebody will correct me if not) install meters, coin meters and key meters themselves (by using an electrician rather than the eleco direct). But - you probably need to use eleco for direct-charge meters where they bill the resident.
I bet they'll revise prices if you can get all the wiring in place first and just let them do final connection, so chat to them if you can get through to someone sensible.
Others will advise on the periodic requirement for landlords, but I imagine being able to safely isolate your own supply is a bit of a given.
If the customer is paying their bill direct to a supplier, they have a right of access to that meter.
Sadly there are too many like this where meters etc are in a shop with no access
Sadly there are too many like this where meters etc are in a shop with no access
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Can you think of or find a regulation which calls for each flat to have a meter and fuseboard?
Is it dangerous the way it is?
Or is it just inconvenient?
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I was trying to steer the OP in the direction with my questions 
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starspark
yes 314.1.(point 1 and 3)
same as above
its massively inconvenient.
same as above
its massively inconvenient.
That's a bit dubious. The installation is divided up, it is just that the tennants can't access the fuses.
I can think of better regs to quote.
Also how would you code this?
I can think of better regs to quote.
Also how would you code this?
I think you need to have a closer read of 314.1. It talks about dividing the installation into cicuirts and lists the reasons why.
Have a look at 132.12 point (ii). This may be of greater relevance.
That does seem rather high.
Was the quote to provide additional meters on an existing supply (so no increase in capacity) - or did someone ask for 6x new supplies, which would cost far more.
Generally we would look for one main fuse per meter so it would need that to start with!
Having seen some interesting load approval forms over the years it seems the "art" of working out load requirements and diversity is lacking in so many!
Having seen some interesting load approval forms over the years it seems the "art" of working out load requirements and diversity is lacking in so many!
It all depends on what averaging period you want your diversified load over doesn't it
. And the reality tends to be quite a bit below what the figure on paper would suggest
Does that also mean they cannot access the main switch for their flat in order to turn of power to an individual flat when necessary to protect life or property ?
if each flat has its own CU then they can isolote their flat.
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