FLYING LESSONS

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Has anyone tried flying lessons has i am about to take up this hobby is it hard to get your private pilots licence.

I am off next week on my first lesson in a 4 seater aircraft cant wait will send in some pics if i survive.
 
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Flying lessons BOB? I'll keep an eye out for you.


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Seriously, I think megawatt might be the guy with this info.
 
Due to free flying lessons i cant turn it down we are flying to a place in scotland a hotel where they have an airstrip on they serve sunday dinner
its all a bit teckno for my brain ive been told i cant take off or land the thing but can take controls in flight, the brother in law who owns the plane says it will take me 12 months to two years to pass with ordenary lessons but he will give me the fast track cours as long has i go halfs with the aviation fuel about £40 he says
 
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I know that hotel, it's got a lovely conveyor i mean airstrip next to it ;)
 
I seriously considered taking up flying a couple of years ago before I started doing the house up - spending 10k on lessons or on the house - the house won :cry: . You also have to consider the cost of keeping yourself current (I think its 12hrs/yr).

If you do your full PPL you need to fly at least 45 hours - most people take longer - which usually takes about 1 to 2 years. You also need to pass several exams and a medical. You usually go solo about 20-25 hours in.

Flying itself is the easy bit - it’s all the other stuff you have to do while flying the plane: looking out for other aircraft, listening and talking on the radio, navigating, checking the panel etc.

Due to the above, to make sure my brain was up to it, I purchased the following equipment over a period:

- MS Flight Simulator (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-F..._1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1207571425&sr=8-1)
- Pedals and Yoke (http://www.flightstore.co.uk/DEPT-FSIM/FSHARD/)
- 500,000:1 and 250,000:1 charts for your area (http://www.flightstore.co.uk/DEPT-CHTS/CHCAA/)
- Chart Pens (http://www.flightstore.co.uk/DEPT-ACTS/CHPENS/)
- Plotter (http://www.flightstore.co.uk/DEPT-ACTS/PLOTS/)
- Flight Computer (http://www.flightstore.co.uk/prod/AFEARC1/DEPT-FCOMP/FCCOMPS/)
- Flight Training Air Pilot's Manuals Vol1 to Vol7 (http://www.flightstore.co.uk/DEPT-BOOKS/BKPPLUK/)
- Air band Radio (I got the Icom IC-R5 which I take to air shows) (http://www.flightstore.co.uk/DEPT-AIR/AIRR/)
- Pilots Stopwatch (http://www.flightstore.co.uk/DEPT-WATCH/KNSTOP/)

Apart from the Flight Sim stuff all the above you will actually use in real flying. If you can get the plane to take off in Flight Sim do a proper circuit as described in the manuals and land again (or do a Touch-and-go) you are well on your way!

There will be other things you will need to fly, like headphones, some clothing, proper sun glasses, kneeboards, etc, but these can be purchased later!

If you are only going to be flying locally on fair weather days, you might want to consider the NPPL. You do not cover the navigation and therefore you fly less hours :)

Oh, by the way, have a look at http://www.mydata.co.uk/ - this guy has a diary of his PPL training he has also gone onto fly choppers also!!

I hope this helps and good luck!!
 
divvy davva doo this sounds good to me, chucks away i will be a flying in no time

Due to mi brains i can do it in 6 months, PEOPLE SOMETIMES under estimate the BRAIN I will do it in 6 month or less i never have come across anything yet i cant do do,

I was on the BBC a few years ago flying around Majorca island on a holiday programme but just a passanger this is where i have got great plans

once i am sorted i will be flying the tourist around the island i hope, done the boat trips now bits over bearing, this seems a good line here and will get me out of this sodding corrupt country.
 
Bob Dole wrote

Due to mi brains i can do it in 6 months, PEOPLE SOMETIMES under estamte the BRAIN I will do it in 6 month or less i never have ciome across anything yet i cant do doo,

How about spelling!
 
Bob Dole wrote

Due to mi brains i can do it in 6 months, PEOPLE SOMETIMES under estamte the BRAIN I will do it in 6 month or less i never have ciome across anything yet i cant do doo,

How about spelling!

who gives a toss about spelling you incorrect spanker
 
6 months. That is on average about 1 hour every 4 days. I take it your going to give up work to do it then :)

When you factor in the weather (low cloud, rain, etc) which means that you will not be able to go up - this is the thing draws it out - not how well your brain copes!
 
Eyeofthebeholder's post is a good starter for 10 but there is no hard and fast rule.

Yes you need to pass a medical (which is very thorough) and a number of exams.

I got my licence in 1983, I went solo in 12 hours and the enitire course from never having been in an aircraft before to being able to pilot one took 6 weeks.

I'm a little out of date regarding how much it would cost today but I'd say that £10K wouldn't be too far out.

Many people serious about flying professionally go to the US after gaining the PPL to clock up hours ... Florida is a great choice ... Fab flying weather pretty much all year round ... Crazy numbers of light aircraft flying there though so you need eyes up your ar** :LOL:

Flying itself is the easy bit
Hmmnnn ... Keeping it in the air is pretty easy after a few lessons, flying accurately to height and heading though (and smoothly so your passengers don't throw up all over you) does take some practice and is where the skill comes in.

Take off is relatively easy to get to grips with though it is the most dangerous phase of any flight and the safety techniques take some mastering (what to do if your engine fails during takeoff etc) ... Landings take far more practice and a natural perception of when to stop pointing at the ground and start raising the nose (called flaring) which some people don't have and never manage to master.

Plenty of people go through flight training and never get a PPL due (in 99% of cases) to an inability to safely land the aircraft.

It isn't a cheap hobby and the best way to keep hours up to a safe level once qualified is to buy a part share in an aircraft ... Note the SAFE level bit ... People who only fly the minimum hours necessary to keep their certificate of experience current are disasters waiting to be investigated IMO.

If you can get the plane to take off in Flight Sim do a proper circuit as described in the manuals and land again (or do a Touch-and-go) you are well on your way!
I wish :LOL:
The first time you fly a circuit with your instructor and then you land and he gets out and tells you to fly a circuit alone you will know what I mean ... What a rush ... And a far better laxative than any vindaloo ;)

It really isn't anything like sat in your living room on MS Flight Sim.

If you are only going to be flying locally on fair weather days, you might want to consider the NPPL. You do not cover the navigation and therefore you fly less hours
Not strictly true ... You may fly anywhere in the UK on a NPPL and you absolutely DO do navigation (which is one of the most difficult aspects of flying once airborne).

Training for NPPL includes the following ...

22 hours dual instruction (to include 1 hour instrument appreciation);
10 hours solo flight (to include 4 hours solo cross-country flight time and one cross-country flight in the course of which full stop landings at two aerodromes other than aerodrome of departure shall be made;
Navigational Skills Test (NST) (minimum of 1 hour duration and to be taken prior to undertaking the qualifying solo cross-country flight);
General Skills Test (GST) (minimum of 1 hour duration).
The theoretical knowledge requirements are the same as for the JAR-FCL PPL (Aeroplanes). There are seven written examinations and one oral examination. These are as follows;

Air Law.
Meteorology.
Navigation & Radio Aids.
Aircraft (General) & Principles of Flight.
Flight Performance & Planning.
Human Performance & Limitations.
JAR-FCL Communications (PPL).
There will also be one oral exam in Communications.

An applicant may not take the General Skills Test until all associated flying training has been completed and the associated theoretical knowledge examinations have been passed.

The General Skills Test shall be taken within 6 months of the completion of training and all sections of the test must be completed within 6 months of the first attempt. If the applicant does not pass all sections of the skill test at the first attempt, the section(s) that have been failed may be attempted in a further test(s).

There is no limit to the number of tests that may be taken.

Medical requirements for the NPPL are less onerous then for a PPL.

Bob: Don't forget that to take passengers for profit does require a commercial pilot's licence ... You cannot do this legally on a PPL/NPPL

Good luck

MW
 
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Tally ho! Cap'n BOB embarks on maiden flight with a paying customer over the island of Majorca. Look out below.
 
I'm going to start reading the AIB reports ... Bob's SURE to feature in at least one edition I reckon :LOL:
 
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