Gas Fireplace in Bedroom -- Clearly not correct? And Closing

[wandertheworldtoday]

Another Fireplace / Gas question:

So, as per another post, I have learned that you can not have a gas appliance in a bedroom. I can only presume (after googling and trying to read the gas safe site) that I can not have a gas fire in my bedroom fireplace, as it's not a 'sealed' unit, but open to the room. Ok, fine, I understand the concerns.

It is odd that my 'gas safe' registered plumber installed a gas pipe from the living room gas feed to the bedroom fireplace (and I am charged of course). But, regardless, I will have some words with him, as I clearly can't use it (maybe I'm wrong and you can have it if there is a open vent in the room..). Anyway, after some thoughts, I've decided to not have a gas fireplace, and just enjoy the look of a fireplace. I have an open chamber, and it's completely open, raw brick etc. Does anyone have a view of how I an easily 'close' the flue area of the hearth, but not the front of the chamber? I know a little vent is needed. Could it be done with insulated plasterboard, affixed inside and upwards? I really don't want my warm air to escape out the flue, if you know what I mean.

Thanks

 

[petertheplumber12]

Phone the gas safe people and tell them what you just wrote here and the name of the gas fitter and they will make him decommission it and you should get your money back. Do it officially that is why we pay so much to be registered so that the customer always has a comeback to cover themselves. They will send an inspector out first so let them take over.

 

[swbjackson]

Gas appliances are allowed in bedrooms as long as they follow some rules.

From BS 5871

7.2 A gas appliance with a heat input of over 12.7Kw installed in a room used as or intended to be used as sleeping accomodation shall be room sealed.

7.3 A gas appliance with a heat input of not greater than `12.7Kw installed in a room used as or intended to be used as sleeping accomodation shall be room sealed or shall incorporate a safety device designed to shut down the appliance before there is a build up of a dangerous quantity of the rpoducts of combustion in the room concerned.

I don't know where you got the idea that you can't have a gas appliance in a bedroom because you can

 

[petertheplumber12]

This is an open flued appliance that is being talked about.

 

[mfarrow]

The guy installed a gas pipe, nothing more. For a fire it appears the customer had not yet chosen. No need to rake him over the coals (speaking of which, it could be for a poker).

 

[FiremanT]

Phone the gas safe people and tell them what you just wrote here and the name of the gas fitter and they will make him decommission it and you should get your money back. Do it officially that is why we pay so much to be registered so that the customer always has a comeback to cover themselves. They will send an inspector out first so let them take over.

t

Peter the plumber - are you really a RGI?, or a relative of Perfect Pete, the online idiot?

An open vented gas fire IS allowed in a bedroom, subject to conditions as already outlined. If you are a RGI, I suggest you get signed into the CC, you ay learn some stuff.

Sorry if this seems harsh.

OP: Your gas guy (hopefully registered) has done nothing wrong. Don't embarrass yourself by ploughing into a complaint

 

[davebgas]

I suggest some people read Reg 30 of the gas safety installation and use regulations before making stupid comments such as 'you can't have a gas appliance in a bedroom'

Yes you can... But there are restrictions. One of which has been pointed out

 

[bazdaman]

Whats the complaint for peter, learn some regs first before spouting off.

 

[Gasguru]

There's confusion all round since the regulations are different for rented accomodation but yes open flued fires are permitted (subject to rules above).

 

[davebgas]

No they aren't different for rented a condition at all.
Regulation 30 is not rental specific!!!

What is different is the date at which it came into force for rental proprieties.

 

[FiremanT]

Phone the gas safe people and tell them what you just wrote here and the name of the gas fitter and they will make him decommission it and you should get your money back. Do it officially that is why we pay so much to be registered so that the customer always has a comeback to cover themselves. They will send an inspector out first so let them take over.

t

Peter the plumber - are you really a RGI?, or a relative of Perfect Pete, the online idiot?

An open vented gas fire IS allowed in a bedroom, subject to conditions as already outlined. If you are a RGI, I suggest you get signed into the CC, you ay learn some stuff.

Sorry if this seems harsh.

OP: Your gas guy (hopefully registered) has done nothing wrong. Don't embarrass yourself by ploughing into a complaint

On reflection, after a good nights sleep , I think my tone was a little harsh, although I stand by the sentiment. It annoys me that apparently fellow tradesmen encourage punters to make complaints and slag off colleagues without ensuring they have ALL the facts. Normally, it is a question of only hearing one side of the argument, this time it is a factual error.

 

[McCombi]

To the op, I recommend you get an audible carbon monoxide alarm for the room also.
Personally I think they should be mandatory for open flued appliances, wherever they may be installed.

 

[Agile]

On reflection, after a good nights sleep , I think my tone was a little harsh, although I stand by the sentiment. It annoys me that apparently fellow tradesmen encourage punters to make complaints and slag off colleagues without ensuring they have ALL the facts. Normally, it is a question of only hearing one side of the argument, this time it is a factual error.

In this instance I don't think that your tone was too harsh.

Where regulations are little understood and can be somewhat confusing because of dates then anyone who is not 110% sure that he is right is better saying nothing at all.

I also agree that any open flued appliance should be required to have a CO alarm and BBUs in particular!

Tony