Gloss or emulsion first

[fartknocker]

Hi all,

Just a quick simple question, Is it best to emulsion the walls and ceiling first before undercoating/glossing the paintwork or is it best the other way around?

Thanks in anticipation
FK

 

[Diyisfun]

Emulsion first thats the part that will make the mess.

 

[Panjandrum]

Is this a universal truth or is there anyone else out there who does it the other way round (like me) - picture rails, skirting, door and window frames first - then ceiling and walls - then doors and opening windows?
I wonder why I do it that way?

 

[jbonding]

panjandrum i do it the same way i find it easier to cut in with emulsion and wipe of the gloss because im not a painter but ive got a big cloth.

 

[Panjandrum]

Thanks jbonding - I feel less lonely now.
Looking round the room I can see there's no way to make any kind of decent job of picture rails or skirting after painting walls. The edges of the mouldings are way too small to get any kind of a decent edge.
But cutting in with the emulsion at the edge of a great big wall is no bother, and I don't seem to have splashed the bright yellow and orange emulsion on the white gloss either.
So I guess a lot depends on the detail of the job in question.

 

[Thermo]

ill always emulsion first, it gets the messy part out of the way, and helps fill any small gaps at skirtings etc. But when it comes to doing the woodwork i just gloss it without being too carful. I then go back and finish off cutting in with the emulsion. quicker neater and less time spent working with smelly gloss

 

[Panjandrum]

Isn't this curious!
For all the same reasons Thermo gives, I do it the other way round. Do the gloss quickly and easily, then cut in with the emulsion ONCE and roll the walls - or brush if I'm feeling whimsical.

 

[white_tiger]

I paint the ceiling first, then the gloss, & finish with the walls.

Makes sense to me!

 

[paddy1]

Always ceiling first folks...
Doesn't matter what method or kind of paint you use it is always going to give overspray to some extent.
If you are a qaulified painter and using proper techniques then ideally you should be doing all the walls next and finally finish off with the woodwork.

As time costs money this may not always be the case.... if your wood work requires more than 1 finish coat ie if it needs to be undercoated or primed then get this out of the way after you have done the ceiling. that way while it is drying you can do the walls with emulsion.

Always finish the job with your finish coat on the woodwork. With a bit of time and practice you will start to find that it is easier to get a better line by doing this.

 

[Panjandrum]

Paddy1: I agree with your logic OK. But like I said earlier, the mouldings on my picture rail and skirting would make it more or less impossible - talking about a 2-3mm bottom edge on the rail and not much more on parts of the skirting.

 

[paddy1]

Thats were a quality brush and skill come into a world of their own. 2 3mm edge shouldnt be a problem for a skilled painter.

 

[confidentincompetent]

I do it paddy's way. Ceilings, undercoat ( quick drying acrylic),do walls, Tidy up, vac. gloss clear site , bank cheque , go to pub

 

[dabaldie]

bank cheque?

cash in hand only mate.

 

[confidentincompetent]

bank cheque?

cash in hand only mate.

Shhh prescott's blokes mite be lookin