Good 9.5 kw electric shower

[marb]

I need to replace a very old Gainsborough 2000 that has gone faulty. It has been going for 11 years (the previous owners of the house had it before us). As it was a decent shower that lasted that long I would like as good quality at 9.5 kw. I would also like it to be the most economical model.

So far I have been looking at Tritions and Mira but can't decide. I don't want to go above £100.

Thanks.

 

[ImayKnow]

Forget Triton, get Mira showers.

B&Q currently have a Mira 'Go' for about £100.

The Gainsborough has done well to last 11 years, they were not the best showers available!

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

And what would be the fault?
It could be repaired.
If you do require a new 9.5kW shower, I assume your existing set up is suitable for this (cable size and MCB rating). also you will find in the manufacturers instructions of new showers, that they ask for RCD protection, so the next question would be, do you have 30mA RCD protection existing on the shower circuit?

Other than that, what about this
http://www.gainsboroughshowers.co.uk/shower-store/electric-shower/Gainsborough-95-se/

 

[ImayKnow]

Derry is correct, I thought the existing shower was 9.5kw whereas that is what you actually want , as he said you need the right size cable and rcd.

To replace the cable won't be cheap so based on what you have said about budget you would be best getting the most powerful shower that your existing cable allows.

 

[marb]

Yes, it's a 10mm cable. Had an electrician check it and said he can install when I get new shower. The Gainsborough trickles water out unheated in winter and only gets hot in summer it's knackered and not worth fixing surely?

No rcd as such but it has it's own switch on this main fuse box. The electrician said ok as it is. Of course the shower switch in the bathroom has been jammed for some time so he is replacing that too.

 

[Screech20]

I've recently installed a mira 'vie' 9.5kw. (Got it from screwfix)

To be honest I've always disliked electric showers, but this was our only option for 6 months.
It's brilliant, an electric shower that we actually get wet under!


As you've said you're getting a sparky in I won't go on about all that, just make sure he is an actual competent person and issues the relevant paperwork.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

No rcd as such but it has it's own switch on this main fuse box. The electrician said ok as it is. Of course the shower switch in the bathroom has been jammed for some time so he is replacing that too.

Your electrician is giving your uninformed and bad advice, although it maybe considered a replacement and no new circuit being installed.
The manufacturers instructions will state the requirement of RCD protection, and must be complied to! You would also be foolish not to have the shower circuit on RCD anyway!
And yes the isolator in bathroom requires repairing or replacing.
The cable sizing for a 9.5kW shower will also be dependant on any derating factors and /or voltage drop that could be applied to the installation method and distance of route, the shower would require a protective device of 45A.

 

[marb]

I the rcd another health and safety tag on we have been given? I honestly can't see what would go wrong with a shower that is a sealed box on the wall. If that's the case, why isn't everything else electrical rcd protected?

 

[Dan Robinson]

Really?!

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

I the rcd another health and safety tag on we have been given?

It's a safety device that stops you from being electrocuted and considering the wet location, it is a wise protection to take.

I honestly can't see what would go wrong with a shower that is a sealed box on the wall.

A little naive then!

If that's the case, why isn't everything else electrical rcd protected?

In a domestic premises, were alterations, extension or new circuits are being installed, RCD protection is now normally installed, there are instances where the requirements allow for it to be excluded, but it is now generally installed.
RCD protection of electrical equipment in bathrooms/shower rooms is now a requirement.

If you electrician ignores this and fails to give this information, he is incompetent!
I know it maybe not you want to hear, and don't shoot the messenger, but that is the way it is.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Dude - I see your forehead's future.

It is brickwall shaped.

Another OP that thinks he knows it all and wants to spend peanuts.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Dude - I see your forehead's future.

It is brickwall shaped.

Another OP that thinks he knows it all and wants to spend peanuts.

I thinks it is possibly a case where the OP is not wanting take in the information being offered, and waiting for some fool to tell them otherwise, so they then think they can ignore all correct advice offered.
At the end of the day they are going to open the box up with the shower in, hopefully read the MI and then believe.
If they plan to ignore and employ an incompetent idiot, that is their look out.
Can only tell them the way it is!

 

[Dan Robinson]

Or they might just stand in a steel bath under a small stream of tepid water coming out of a cheap plastic box holding 230V at what 40 odd amps?

With little or no safety device fitted.

Because they're too tight .



'sawright guv - been like that for years and ain't neva killed anyone innit.

 

[Screech20]

Can you post a picture of your fuseboard please?

 

[ImayKnow]

Hey chaps you can only give your expert advice, if the op decides not to take it then more fool them

They should appreciate your knowledge and the fact you are prepared to share it free of charge.

I thank you on their behalf.