Hanging 20kg light fitting

[Rebecca18]

Hello,

We are about to hang a oak beam light fitting to our dining rooms

The oak will be hung via a joist in the ceiling .

I fear this may cause the plaster on our ceiling to crack ?

We are a 1970s house in UK if that helps

Example of fitting attached

 

[Tigercubrider]

Simply drilling through the plaster to secure into the joists shouldn’t cause a ceiling to crack. It’s likely plasterboard but you could open the screw hole up a tiny bit to ensure that no pressure goes onto the plaster?
20kg is heavy so I’d hope that you can get fittings into more than one joist and maybe use some bolts.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Yes if you can get it suspended from two ceiling joists that would be grand.

 

[Murdochcat]

If you can’t locate the joists don’t fit it

 

[jj4091]

If you can’t locate the joists don’t fit it

Or call someone who knows what needs doing, you cannot be prperly advised from the details in your post.

 

[Rebecca18]

I can send video on what's app?

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Or call someone who knows what needs doing, you cannot be prperly advised from the details in your post.

You know this a DIY site right, where people with more knowledge are supposed to advise those with less?

 

[JohnD]

It seems to be a long suspended fitting. So you need a support at each end to prevent it twisting. Each must be screwed into a joist, not just supported on plaster. A vine eye or hook is very suitable, a couple of inches long so it is screwed well into a pilot hole drilled in the joist. You can paint it to match the ceiling.

There are various ways to identify where the joists are. You can get a "stud finder" electronic device.

The trained eye can often see a dust shadow or the dimples where plasterboard nails run. You may be able to hear them by tapping the plastercwith your knuckles. If you can access from above you can drill tiny holes through the ceiling.

you can also drill a hole between the joists and probe with a Special Tool in both directions to feel the distance to the two adjacent joists. They will be around 14 inches apart.

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[foxhole]

It seems to be a long suspended fitting. So you need a support at each end to prevent it twisting. Each must be screwed into a joist, not just supported on plaster. A vine eye or hook is very suitable, a couple of inches long so it is screwed well into a pilot hole drilled in the joist. You can paint it to match the ceiling.

There are various ways to identify where the joists are. You can get a "stud finder" electronic device.

The trained eye can often see a dust shadow or the dimples where plasterboard nails run. You may be able to hear them by tapping the plastercwith your knuckles. If you can access from above you can drill tiny holes through the ceiling.

you can also drill a hole between the joists and probe with a Special Tool in both directions to feel the distance to the two adjacent joists. They will be around 14 inches apart.

Rawl Plugs for 6kg Mirror in Bathroom

Hi i've got a mirror to put up on a bathroom wall. wall is plasterboard (hollow behind i believe, internal wall). mirror weighs about 6kg, so is reasonably heavy, and in the orientation will have 2 mount points on each top corner (it's wide and thin). so looking to know which rawl plugs/screws...

www.diynot.com

Fitting comes with its own hook fittings so it will be fine .( see ops photo).

 

[Rebecca18]

It seems to be a long suspended fitting. So you need a support at each end to prevent it twisting. Each must be screwed into a joist, not just supported on plaster. A vine eye or hook is very suitable, a couple of inches long so it is screwed well into a pilot hole drilled in the joist. You can paint it to match the ceiling.

There are various ways to identify where the joists are. You can get a "stud finder" electronic device.

The trained eye can often see a dust shadow or the dimples where plasterboard nails run. You may be able to hear them by tapping the plastercwith your knuckles. If you can access from above you can drill tiny holes through the ceiling.

you can also drill a hole between the joists and probe with a Special Tool in both directions to feel the distance to the two adjacent joists. They will be around 14 inches apart.

Rawl Plugs for 6kg Mirror in Bathroom

Hi i've got a mirror to put up on a bathroom wall. wall is plasterboard (hollow behind i believe, internal wall). mirror weighs about 6kg, so is reasonably heavy, and in the orientation will have 2 mount points on each top corner (it's wide and thin). so looking to know which rawl plugs/screws...

www.diynot.com

That's amazing thank you

 

[Rebecca18]

Just to add the photo an example.

We plan to hang the fitting by a two steel wires (rated to take £350kg) by a hook screwed into joist and eye bolt screwed into fitting.

I am just worried the joist may flex and crack the plaster

Thank you everyone

 

[foxhole]

Just to add the photo an example.

We plan to hang the fitting by a two steel wires (rated to take £350kg) by a hook screwed into joist and eye bolt screwed into fitting.

I am just worried the joist may flex and crack the plaster

Thank you everyone

No chance of that the two wires half the weight taken by each.

 

[jj4091]

You know this a DIY site right, where people with more knowledge are supposed to advise those with less?

Do you think they have given enough information to be able to judge how installing that fitting should be done. I will always advise someone to call an expert if it appears they are out of their depth. In my opinion "will be hung via a joist in the ceiling" could mean anything. There is also no mention of how it will be supplied electrically. Any good electrician would be able to give alternatives on a site visit if he did not consider the customers suggestion was suitable.

 

[blup]

Neodymium magnets are good at identifying the screws buried in the plasterboard ceiling, they won’t line up straight so you get a good idea of where the edges are and can centre the screws better