Help for Hanging a chandelier in the dining room

[meganfurley]

Hi
I am planning to put up a chandelier which is said to be 5kgs in weight in my downstairs dining room.(https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01AXOHT7E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

I have been provided with a bracket. Do I need to put the bracket as I thought 5kgs was not too heavy for the ceiling.I have enclosed an image of the present lighting fixture. How do I proceed further? Thanks Megan

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[chivers67]

What is above the current ceiling rose? You may have to strengthen the ceiling with wood battens to take the weight. Are you able to lift floor boards above it?

 

[Tigercubrider]

 

[meganfurley]

What is above the current ceiling rose? You may have to strengthen the ceiling with wood battens to take the weight. Are you able to lift floor boards above it?

Hi chivers67,

Above the dining room is one of the bedrooms. I don't have access to lift the floorboards.

 

[Tigercubrider]

5kg is the approx weight of a bucket full of water.

 

[chivers67]

Ideally the ceiling rose has a batten across the joists with a hole the cables feeding it enter, without being able to look from above it might be hard to know whether the chandelier will be supported properly.

Carefully undo one of the silver cross-head screws holding the ceiling rose in place to see what exactly it's screwed into.

 

[SimonH2]

Or the rose may be screwed to a joist with the cable(s) running just to one side of the joist. If that's the case, then you can screw the bracket to the joist and there's no problem.
If you have a stud finder, then probably no problem to figure out where the joists run - and hence whether your rose is attached to one of them. If not, then you really need to be lifting a board above to see what's there and whether it's going to take the weight.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Before I even looked at this topic - when all I had seen was the title in the list - my first thought was "I wonder whose turn it is to post the Only Fools and Horses video?

 

[securespark]

5kg is the approx weight of a bucket full of water.

So fix your chandelier bracket to the existing fixing holes and hang a bucket of water to it.

What happens?

 

[John D v2.0]

5kg is a very small bucket, all mine are 12l (I guess 2 gallons in old money)

 

[FrodoOne]

If the chandelier really is no more than 5 kg, I can recommend the use of one of these (https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/LDMC11A.html), also available in chrome, white and black.

The chandelier will need cleaning at some time in the future and these make it easier, since the chandelier can be unplugged and brought down to floor level.

Of course, it also makes it easier to install the chandelier in the first place.

5kg is a very small bucket, all mine are 12l (I guess 2 gallons in old money)

An Imperial Gallon is 10 lb (pounds) of water (4.54 kg)

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I thought 5kgs was not too heavy for the ceiling

Never mind the ceiling - it'll be heavy enough held in one hand atop steps while you use the other hand to fix it.

 

[securespark]

Er.....What?

Think you need the ASA on to you.

If what you suggest is difficult, have you ever heard of two step ladders placed adjacent to each other with a person atop each, one holds, the other fixes.

 

[FrodoOne]

5kg is a very small bucket, all mine are 12l (I guess 2 gallons in old money)

An Imperial Gallon is 10 lb (pounds) of water (4.54 kg)

Never mind the ceiling - it'll be heavy enough held in one hand atop steps while you use the other hand to fix it.

Which is why one of these (https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/LDMC11A.html) makes things easy.

You can either
install the ceiling fitting, climb down the ladder, pick up the chandelier, climb up again and plug it in
or
install the ceiling fitting, have someone hand you the chandelier and plug it in.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

If what you suggest is difficult, have you ever heard of two step ladders placed adjacent to each other with a person atop each, one holds, the other fixes.

Yes I have.

Have you ever heard of a person only having one step ladder and one person?