Help me get rid of my old alarm

[WabbitPoo]

We have an old alarm system, installed by the previous owners (not sure what make but it has 9455 on the front!).

Yes, I know how to set it, but its a pain the behind when you want to decorate behind the PIRs and I don't have an engineer code to enable me to take them off, its getting temperamental, and I want to re-site the big ugly pad anyway due to other changes.

So, I'd like to use all the same PIRs and wiring but just get a new box of tricks. Is this within the realms of DIY? If so, how do I take off the old box without the alarm going off?!?

I hate having a bit of kit in the house without having any control over it!

 

[breezer]

you cant, you need the engineer code.

how ever once its open / down it will not be going off any more. since it is open. pull the mains and battery and hope the bell battery is flat

 

[Handykindabloke]

We have an old alarm system, installed by the previous owners (not sure what make but it has 9455 on the front!).

Yes, I know how to set it, but its a pain the behind when you want to decorate behind the PIRs and I don't have an engineer code to enable me to take them off, its getting temperamental, and I want to re-site the big ugly pad anyway due to other changes.

So, I'd like to use all the same PIRs and wiring but just get a new box of tricks. Is this within the realms of DIY? If so, how do I take off the old box without the alarm going off?!?

I hate having a bit of kit in the house without having any control over it!

If you still want to use it you might be able to find out how to reset to factory codes. Control panels vary on how to do that so you will need to find out just what make and model it is.

I think a 9455 is Scantronic, do a GOOGLE search for local alarm companies they might help.

 

[iStormSecuritySolution]

It is a Scany, The problem you are going to have is using the same cables.... do you mean you are going to leave the detectors in the same place? If so you are going to need to invest in a new c/p (box of tricks) and remote keypad, unless you are going to move the cables at the panel end your going to need to replace your old panel with the new box of tricks, then install a cable to your remote keypad location! Bare in mind that if the old panel is in an awkward place and thats why you want to move it? you will need to label up all the cables inside in the panel
before you remove them, Beware 240v electricity is inside the panel! If you get stuck give us a shout we cover Derby & Notts.

This is the Manual found on Google:
http://www.templewood.co.uk/documents/9454Discontinued.pdf

 

[WabbitPoo]

Thats great info, thanks. One local company quoted 800 quid to replace the box of tricks. Admittedly, it involved a new box in the loft then a new key pad, but it seemed a bit steep. hence wanting to do it meself!

Is there a reason to think an engineer may have reset the engineer code from the default of 7890? I can't imagine why they would, as the next guy would struggle, but people do funny things!

Also, is a walk test a way of setting off the alarm at the pad but not on the bell outside, for the purposes of checking which zones are which?

 

[breezer]

you always change the default engineer code, to one which only the company who fitted it know. saves people reprogramming it by "accident"

walk test will do as you ask

 

[iStormSecuritySolution]

800 quid.... Give us a call we will replace the system for that!

 

[WabbitPoo]

Still looking into this issue! The engineer code does not seem to be the default one of 7890, as predicted by the manual. Leads me to wonder what an alarm company would do if it came to disconnect it - just rip the bell off the wall, I guess, while peeing off the neighbours with the noise?

 

[scott1980]

Not so. Most decent engineers can silence a bell in less than a couple of seconds usually, and some cases, the bell won't sound at all.

 

[WabbitPoo]

what - without an engineer code? that's pretty clever stuff. guess I'm gonna have to get one in, then.

 

[p4ult]

When an engineer came to look at mine he said he could crash the panel/system if needed and start from scratch and set it up from new if he couldn't get the eng code.
After a couple of call he found out what it was

 

[alphaalarms]

wow! 800 smackers? thats nuts!
you will get far cheeper if you shop around!
im say in the area of 300-400 for top of the range panel rkp and siren by a company which will come back if theres a problem!
where in nots are you?

 

[2scoops0406]

Use a lump hammer, about £3 from screwfix.

 

[TicklyT]

........ just rip the bell off the wall, I guess, while peeing off the neighbours with the noise?

...Just reminded me of a crew replacing wooden fascias with UPVC on a parade of shops in Guildford a few years back. They started the work at 7AM on a Sunday.

As they progressed, the noise from the skip at the end of the parade got louder and louder as all the old fascias, complete with the bell boxes from every alarm system in the parade was piled in.

 

[davelx]

I amazes me that people make such a fuss about having the alarm sound for a couple of minutes whilst they open the bell box and disconnect the incoming wires and internal battery.

The neighbours won't mind, really! If you do it on a weekday at about 11.00am, most people will be out anyway.