Help New light fitting - extra wires

[mac456]

Hi all,

I have being tasked by the GF to fit a new light fitting to the ceiling.

I have watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZizlnLfLks which is very good.

But my fitting is abit different. Too many wires.

The new fitting has two connectors (one live and want neutral)

The fixtures in the ceiling have 2 lives, 2 neutrals, and one earth.

What do I do with these extra wires? if I have to fit extra terminals where and what do I fit them too? sorry I am abit of a newb when it comes to this.

House fittings

• mac456
• 28 Jul 2013
• 1

New Fittings

• mac456
• 28 Jul 2013
• 1

 

[riveralt]

Your incoming live (brown) and neutral (blue) are the ones in the grey sheath. They should be connected the live/neutral on the new lamp.
If there is no earth terminal on the new lamp then put it in a terminal block - otherwise it must be connected as per new lamp instructions.
The other two brown/blue wires wrapped around the ceiling rose can be ignored.


Looks as if the power for this light is coming from the switch.

 

[Johnmelad]

I hope you did not take his advice on testing dead.

 

[tew1]

it's not ideal, but if you want to fit the grey sheathed cable (T&E) into that light fitting, you'll have to just snip off the Earth (green/yellow) wire as close as possible to the sheathing and leave it unconnected.

 

[Gutterball]

do not snip off the earth! leave it in the green/yellow sleeving and tape it back along the grey sleeving.
This is the sort of equipment you should be using for safe isolation. .http://www.test-meter.co.uk/product...-voltage-indicator-and-proving-unit-vipd-kit/
the best place for a neon screwdriver is in the bin

 

[flameport]

it's not ideal, but if you want to fit the grey sheathed cable (T&E) into that light fitting, you'll have to just snip off the Earth (green/yellow) wire as close as possible to the sheathing and leave it unconnected.

Not only is this not ideal, is is totally unacceptable.

Earth wires are NEVER cut off.

 

[tew1]

it's not ideal, but if you want to fit the grey sheathed cable (T&E) into that light fitting, you'll have to just snip off the Earth (green/yellow) wire as close as possible to the sheathing and leave it unconnected.

Not only is this not ideal, is is totally unacceptable.

Earth wires are NEVER cut off.

why do they make fittings with no earth terminal? It's dumb. Whatever you do is going to be a bodge, whether you cut it off, tape it, bend it back e.t.c.

 

[EFLImpudence]

why do they make fittings with no earth terminal? It's dumb. Whatever you do is going to be a bodge, whether you cut it off, tape it, bend it back e.t.c.

Earthing (to operate the opd in the event of a fault) is a safety measure and necessary 'evil'.
It would be better if it were not necessary.

Double insulation prevents the danger of metal casings becoming live thus removing the need for earthing.

However, the cpc should be run to the appliances and fittings for testing purposes and in case it is needed in the future and therefore should not be cut.

 

[tew1]

why do they make fittings with no earth terminal? It's dumb. Whatever you do is going to be a bodge, whether you cut it off, tape it, bend it back e.t.c.

Earthing (to operate the opd in the event of a fault) is a safety measure and necessary 'evil'.
It would be better if it were not necessary.

Double insulation prevents the danger of metal casings becoming live thus removing the need for earthing.

However, the cpc should be run to the appliances and fittings for testing purposes and in case it is needed in the future and therefore should not be cut.

no, I mean, in fittings that don't require an earth, why don't manufacturers provide a terminal anyway just to terminate the earth for neatness?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Penny-pinching ?

 

[JohnW2]

no, I mean, in fittings that don't require an earth, why don't manufacturers provide a terminal anyway just to terminate the earth for neatness?

Some do.

Kind Regards. John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

it's not ideal, but if you want to fit the grey sheathed cable (T&E) into that light fitting, you'll have to just snip off the Earth (green/yellow) wire as close as possible to the sheathing and leave it unconnected.

tew - please stop giving people advice - you are sh*te at it.