Hive heating installation Help

[deanoc]

Hi Guys,

I'm Looking at replacing my current Thermostat and wireless receiver (WR1)... form what i can see online the WR1 has the same back plate as the HIVE, therefore meaning i can just disconnect the WR1 and clip on the HIVE wireless receiver, failing that wire the terminals like for like.... can anyone confirm this?

I think the WR1 is a British Gas re-branded Drayton Digistat SCR

Many Thanks

 

[ianmcd]

if it is a hive single channel then yes but if you have a hive double channel then no

 

[deanoc]

if it is a hive single channel then yes but if you have a hive double channel then no

It’s a single channel... Thanks for confirming... nice easy job for me

 

[ravsaidha]

i am currently in the same boat - have you managed to change to the Hive yet? I assume you have a combi boiler so you went with the Hive Active Heating (rather than the one with hot water?)

 

[deanoc]

i am currently in the same boat - have you managed to change to the Hive yet? I assume you have a combi boiler so you went with the Hive Active Heating (rather than the one with hot water?)

I did go with Hive, very easy installation if you have the WR1 receiver, unscrew the 2 small screws on the bottom of the receiver, lift off the receiver and replace with the hive receiver... job done

 

[ravsaidha]

Thanks Dean,

Did yours look like below then?

 

[MeldrewsMate]

Am I missing something? In both cases your wiring is connected to the hot water ON and hot water OFF terminals of the backplate. Surely the outputs should be from terminals 3 (HW) and 4(CH)?
And you're saying it was a straightforward clip off, clip on installation?

 

[deanoc]

Thanks Dean,

Did yours look like below then?

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Yep mine looked like that, the new receiver clipped onto the back plate... check out the link to confirm in your wiring is correct

http://www.free-instruction-manuals.com/pdf/pa_1286225.pdf

Am I missing something? In both cases your wiring is connected to the hot water ON and hot water OFF terminals of the backplate. Surely the outputs should be from terminals 3 (HW) and 4(CH)?
And you're saying it was a straightforward clip off, clip on installation?

That’s not an image of mine, I don’t have hot water , but mine was a straight swap and is working I can’t comment on the wiring above, but I had Netural, Live, Common and Heating connected previously and that’s what Hive also wanted - terminal 3 on a single receiver is CH on

 

[ravsaidha]

Thanks Dean - I have a Greenstar Combi Boiler but I'm confused where the hot water part is coming from? I would have thought we'd have the same model...never is that easy is it!

On this link (WR1 = Drayton) (http://www.draytoncontrols.co.uk/sites/default/files/Digistat1RFUIGuide.pdf) it appears to say:
N = Neutral (same as Hive)
L = Live (same as Hive)
1 = Common (same as Hive)
2 = Heating satisfied or call for cooling (is this Heating off?)
3 = Call for heat (same as Hive for Heating on?)

i'm looking at the Hive Single channel by the way

am i missing something really obvious?

 

[stem]

There are two versions of the Hive and their wiring is different.

@MeldrewsMate when you say that "the outputs should be from terminals 3 (HW) and 4 (CH)" This is for the dual channel Hive for controlling heating and hot water. For systems with stored hot water / hot water cylinder.

@ravsaidha what you have posted as copied below is for the single channel Hive receiver for combi boilers that provide instantaneous hot water when a tap is turned on and so they don't need any hot water time control.

Note: they don't need any connection to terminal (2).

N = Neutral (same as Hive)
L = Live (same as Hive)
1 = Common (same as Hive)
2 = Heating satisfied or call for cooling (is this Heating off?)
3 = Call for heat (same as Hive for Heating on?)

 

[ravsaidha]

Hi @stem - thanks for clarifying this - i thought i was going a little bit crazy! in that case, what i have as a connection in place should really be a simple remove and replace (as @deanoc mentioned previously).

 

[stem]

Hi @stem what i have as a connection in place should really be a simple remove and replace.

Yes, the WR1 is a British Gas product as is the Hive, so it is compatible with the Single Channel version of the Hive.

WR1 (N) 'Neutral' = Hive (N) 'Neutral'
WR1 (L) 'Live' = Hive (L) 'Live'
WR1 (1) 'C' = Hive (1) 'Com'
WR1 (3) 'Call' = Hive (3) 'Heating on'

 

[ravsaidha]

Thanks @stem - that means the Hive Active heating product is single channel (as opposed to the one with hot water which is dual?)

 

[stem]

Not exactly. Think of it like a car. A VW golf is the car, and you can buy it as a 3 door or 5 door version. In the same way, the 'Hive Active Heating' is the product and you can buy it as Single Channel or a Dual Channel version.

 

[ravsaidha]

Ah dammit! How do I know which one to get then?