Hive with Drayton programmer

[Kalmist]

Currently have a LP722 Drayton programmer which handles both heating and hot water and I'm looking into purchasing a Hive (with installation).

I'd prefer the Drayton to continue handling the hot water so was wandering, before purchasing, if an installer Is able to install a Hive just for heating and leave water to the Drayton programmer?

 

[Echo the husky]

Yes it would be possible, and would require a bit of extra wiring compared with just swapping the old programmer with the hive receiver. What is the reason for wanting it separate? It is certainly not a common request.

 

[AndyPRK]

Yes you could leave the ch timer to ON in winter.

Personally I quite like the once and twice function of the timer which other things don't have.
Basically to select if you are home or not.

 

[Kalmist]

Yes it would be possible, and would require a bit of extra wiring compared with just swapping the old programmer with the hive receiver. What is the reason for wanting it separate? It is certainly not a common request.

The Drayton programmer can be programmed to the minute. The Hive can only do 15 minute interval times. This is my main reason for this setup.

 

[AndyPRK]

So why do you need that resolution for your hot water ?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Follow up question, then is:

Why do you want the Hive?

 

[Kalmist]

Follow up question, then is:

Why do you want the Hive?

To be able to control the thermostat temperature remotely. I tend not to leave the heating on 24/7 in winter.

 

[Kalmist]

So why do you need that resolution for your hot water ?

With just the 2 of us in the property, the hot water only needs about 20 mins to boil up to required temperature. 15 min too short, 30 min too long

Forget to mention it's a regular Boiler

 

[EFLImpudence]

I thought the Hive was able to control the water as well.

You can turn it on 20 minutes before you get home and turn it off if the traffic lights are red.

 

[Kalmist]

I thought the Hive was able to control the water as well.

You can turn it on 20 minutes before you get home and turn it off if the traffic lights are red.

It can, but I rarely have to change water times. It comes on once every morning and that's it for the rest of the day.

 

[EFLImpudence]

 

[Taylortwocities]

I would like to see a vote on this. I can see some of the the requirement for the Internet of Things stuff. But, why would I need to to remotely have to control my heating etc?.

Maybe I am of another generation, but if I get home, and its a bit chilly, I pop on a jumper.
If its too hot, I'll take off my top (arrghh don't look too closely, it's horrible.)

Whats the logic of spending a few hundred ££ just so you can get your lounge to 23.5°C exactly at the time you get home as commanded fromthe log jam on the M25. Its all a load of boarlocks.

 

[Echo the husky]

I too can see no use for such devices. I just have a timeclock and room stat, timeclock comes on for a little while in the morning before I get up and in the evening around the time I get home. It is set the same every day of the year. The room stat is set to 15°C, nothing needs touching or controlling from the other side of the planet. If I'm feeling like a wimp I can hit the 1 hour boost button on the timer during the times the timeclock is off. Functional and reliable.

 

[EFLImpudence]

There are two ways to 'solve' this:

Just buy a wi-fi room thermostat and fit in place of existing thermostat, leave programmer heating on permanently

or

fit the Hive in place of the programmer, as it should be, then set hive to a whole half-hour BUT after twenty minutes turn down the tank thermostat until the water heating switches off.

 

[AndyPRK]

I think that is some what silly. Having to set a 20 min timer and turn down a stat?

Then reset in evening.

You could move the stat higher up the tank if it's an external one.