hotpoint washing machine.

[redrunner]

my son has a hotpoint w,machine. model wm52p first edition.
and whatever prog he puts it on it trips the mcb.
i checked the c,brushes and they seem ok/ i also took each wire of the brushes and used a multimeter to test for earth leakage ?[ the last motor was leaking to earth on 1 winding ] so we replaced the motor [ old posting ] . anyway the wire to left c,brush [ looking from front ] was earthing out.
i then removed the white multi plug that goes to circuit board, and tested wire again and it was ok./
so i tested the white muti plug and it is earthing out , at the end wires.

so as my machine is the same make and model i done same test, and no earth out on mine/
so am i on right track to thinking the module / p,circuit board needs renewing.? also how do you get the front white plastic cover off to get at it ?.
regards. r.r.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Sounds like your on the right track.
Have a look at the wires from the module to the motor, especially where it's cable tied to the casing.

To get access to the timer screws.
Take the lid off, take out the dispenser drawer and remove the screws from the facia panel. Take the knobs off and the facia comes away giving access to the timer/module screws.

 

[redrunner]

yep, thanks for answer ..sleepyhead/ will do a double check monday , and if its easy as you say to remove front cover i might even take mine off first and try it on his machine.
if it dont trip and works ok we will go shopping around to get a second hand one someplace, as i suspect a new one would cost a small fortune.
anyway will post an update. regards.r.r.
ps, was just wondering if there could be a connection [ not by wires ,lol ] as to his other motor earthing out on one of the brush wires ? even when i had it out of machine/ wonder if the module caused that.
there again its been ok since we put another motor in so dont suppose so./ oh, i will check the wires nr the cable ties you mention.
regards, r.r.

 

[Sleepyhead]

The facia doesn't have the timer and module attached to it. You'll see what I mean when you pop it off.

Check the wiring first, it's a common problem.

 

[redrunner]

cheers sleepyhead/. got front panel off as you said , easy/ looked at the white wires going from motor to module and couldnt see anythink, changed the timer over with the one i know is ok/ .still trips c/breaker.
put new brushes in as well, still trips, changed door catch / still trips. disconected the wires to the pump , [ try anythink , lol ] . still trips.
even took white multi plug of at the motor so its not even connected to timer as you will know. .still trips, lol/ .
will take a very close look at all wires tuesday afternoon again./ like you suggest got to be somewhere earthing out, not really much else to try of me spare machine , only the pump , lol. and the plug on the cable. .
oh/ it doesnt matter what prog its set at , when its switched on it will trip.

i also put the timer /door switch/ back on my spare [ minus the motor me sons allready had that ] and powered it up and it lights up [ not connected to water etc. and guess what/ .it doesnt trip. lol.

sorry about length of reply, regards. r.r.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Well, you've done a lot of testing.
Disconnect the motor plug at the motor, does it still trip? If not plug it back in.
Disconnect the heater wiring and insulate. Does it still trip? If not plug them back on.
You've elimated the door lock, timer/module so you're left with chaffed wiring.
Disconnect the motor plug from motor and module, meter each wire from any end to the casing. If you get continuity on any wire then this wire is shorting out.
If everything has checked out so far, you'll have to remove the front of the machine and check the wiring for chaffing.

 

[redrunner]

hi, sleepyhead, yes i did unplug the white multi plug from the motor and it still tripped/ then i tried it unpluged at both ends, still tripped.
one thing i forgot to say [ sorry ] was it did let water in at inlets/ because we had to syphon it out again. a couple of times.
forgot all about the heater, which is next step in the prog isnt it ? so that sounds promising. . anyway will do as you suggest and also look and test wiring for continuity. regards. r.r.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Check the heater first. It's shorting after taking water in. Odds on it's the element.

 

[redrunner]

yes /. sleepyhead. i think you could be right there/ its a place i havent been yet and i had the back of to dissconect the pump as well,
if id thought to tell you about the water coming in i bet you would have said go there first./ but it was only on the water inlet cycle a few mins or so that i completely forgot it water = heater=start washing/ .
anyway i cant wait to get back to it later today at me sons, if it was mine i would have been looking last night regardless of time , . its doing me head in / not to mention no rest either. lol.
will give an update , fingers crossed. regards.r.r.

 

[redrunner]

well sleepyhead / you were right it was the heater element, if only i had mentioned the water was coming in before/ you would have picked up on it straight away and i would have saved a lot of time
mind you took me a while to find where element was/ ones ive done before were at bottom in back.
anyway it nows works like dream, and i now know more than i did about hotpoint w,machines also it might be of help to others. so a big thanks. from my son and me. regards. r.r.

 

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