How to remedy ceiling paint peeling

[jmaxwell]

Hi there, the paint on the kitchen ceiling is peeling off in some areas. What would be the best way to deal with this? I was thinking of scraping back the loose bits and priming with something like Zinsser BIN before filling the bumpy areas and then applying a topcoat. I just want to make sure it doesn’t start peeling again when I’m finished.

For context: It started happening after my Dad repainted the ceiling without sugar soaping first so it may be due to the paint not adhering because of grease. But there were some leaks from the upstairs flat at one point too, so maybe it had to do with that instead.

 

[Johnny Allround]

Good afternoon Jmax, take all the flaking off using a scraper, mist coat with a light Matt Emulsion colour and include some pva bond to reseal the ceiling. The mist coat when dry will show up any blemishes and at this point fill them with a suitable filler, when dry rub down and Finish with a couple of top coats. Hope this helps.

 

[jmaxwell]

Thank you Johnny, what ratio of PVA:water:emulsion should I use?

 

[Johnny Allround]

Water/pva 7:1 ratio

 

[Johnny Allround]

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[flameport]

If you use PVA, it will be impossible to get a decent finish with any paint.

 

[sparkwright]

Personally I wouldn't use PVA.

 

[jmaxwell]

Personally I wouldn't use PVA.

If you use PVA, it will be impossible to get a decent finish with any paint.

What are my other options?

 

[Iamchamps]

Don’t PVA, scrape every flakey part off so it looks good. Fill any holes, light sand and then repaint.

 

[JohnD]

the ceiling might also suffer from condensation, from cooking steam, if an extractor (not a recycling) cooker hood is not used. I find vinyl silk is reasonably resistant, but some matt white ceiling paints, not so tough.

(don't put PVA glue on any surface you hope to paint. It softens when damp, and dissolves in water)

 

[Johnny Allround]

Hi Jmax, sorry for the conflicting information you seem to be attracting so just to put the record straight what are your other options read this and a reference from top tradesmen :

Good morning Angler, and all the no no noers.The advice and tips I give to people are derived from over 45 years of being in the building trade, when there was no internet and apprenticeships lasted 6 years before you got your qualifications. A time when you multi tasked across different trades to broaden your knowledge rather than looking on google. However I do find that in this matter that I must defend my advice to Angler in the following way. Proper plasterers from the old school would assist the decorators on new build sites back in the day. This came as a tip to mist coat using an equally diluted mixture of white pva and water this was then added to an equally diluted mixture of water and white or magnolia Matt emulsion, as long as the walls have completely dried out you will never have an issue with this advice. I have used this method on hundreds of properties and never been back to one. That’s a fact.