Ideal icos PCB

[pepper11]

Moved into a new house, just over 2yrs ago, with an Ideal icos boiler fitted for the heating and water. came in from a day out to find no power to the boiler. fuses checked ok, power to house checked ok. Sparky friend checked out the electrics and said that the PCB was the problem.

this question then came to me. How long should the PCB be lasting in a newly installer boiler and likewise what is a reasonable life expectancy for the PCB?.

can anyone help answer this?

 

[mickyg]

You need to seperate your question into 2 parts:

a) How long should a pcb last in a boiler?

its reasonable to expect it to last a minimum of 4-5yrs and anything up to 15yrs.

b) How long should a pcb last in an Ideal Isar or Icos?
6 months - 2yrs about average.

Don't worry it will be something else next month.

 

[pepper11]

You need to seperate your question into 2 parts:

a) How long should a pcb last in a boiler?

its reasonable to expect it to last a minimum of 4-5yrs and anything up to 15yrs.

b) How long should a pcb last in an Ideal Isar or Icos?
6 months - 2yrs about average.

Don't worry it will be something else next month.

micky, thx for ur reply. any idea nas to why the ideal icos pcb's don't last as long as their counterparts in other boilers.
i'm about to start "fighting" with Ideal over this problem.

 

[mickyg]

I don't know the specific reason they fail, early ones seemed to be related to the igntion/spark process, later ones just died completely with no power. All i can tell you is that the pcbs are horrendously unreliable. In fact not just the pcb, the whole boiler. You only have to search this forum for topics regarding isar, icos, mexico he, istor etc.. and tbh any condensing boiler Ideal have ever made. You will read countless tales of woe!
I feel for any poor soul who has one of their pieces of junk in their home.

 

[Happyplumber]

An underrated transformer which is built onto the pcb is the problem,just a cheap inappropriate part used as cost saving exercise which has haunted Ideal as well as many customers on the warmfront scheme when the boiler warranty ran out

 

[petit_pablo]

i'm about to start "fighting" with Ideal over this problem.

Good luck with that! I very much doubt you will get very far, ideal will most likely deny theres a problem!

 

[petit_pablo]

You need to seperate your question into 2 parts:

a) How long should a pcb last in a boiler?

its reasonable to expect it to last a minimum of 4-5yrs and anything up to 15yrs.

b) How long should a pcb last in an Ideal Isar or Icos?
6 months - 2yrs about average.

Don't worry it will be something else next month.

actually laughed out loud when i read this reply!

 

[kevindgas]

i'm about to start "fighting" with Ideal over this problem.

Good luck with that! I very much doubt you will get very far, ideal will most likely deny theres a problem!

No most likely about it they will deny it till hell freezes over!! even when still in warranty period!

 

[screech]

You need to seperate your question into 2 parts:

a) How long should a pcb last in a boiler?

its reasonable to expect it to last a minimum of 4-5yrs and anything up to 15yrs.

b) How long should a pcb last in an Ideal Isar or Icos?
6 months - 2yrs about average.

Don't worry it will be something else next month.

actually laughed out loud when i read this reply!

have to admit i laughed as well, i mean, 2 years out of an icos/isar pcb, that'll be some kind of record

 

[Agile]

An underrated transformer which is built onto the pcb is the problem,just a cheap inappropriate part used as cost saving exercise which has haunted Ideal as well as many customers on the warmfront scheme when the boiler warranty ran out

The transformer is not under rated.

Its just that its not protected and any overload at all and it overheats and burns out.

A proper design uses a PTC resistor in series with the primary which trips off if there is any overlead. They cost in bulk about 14p each.

Tony