Installers opinion required on electric showers

[ccl]

I am carrying out research on behalf of a UK electric shower manufacturer to find out what electricians, plumbers and other trade installers think about electric showers. The survey is NOT a ‘backdoor’ method to sell you something or get you on a marketing list. Nothing like that at all. We genuinely would like your professional help to better understand areas such as:

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  The improvements and features you would like to see on future electric showers, especially those that make them simpler for you to install
  How often the existing installation limits electric shower product choice (e.g. mains power supply cable rating) and the difficulties this gives you and your customers
  Your preferred make of electric shower (if you have one), and why
  How happy you are with the backup service provided by manufacturers, or your suppliers, of electric showers and what could be done to make it better for you and your customers
  How frequently you supply and fit electric showers, versus fit only, and where you buy them from

Please let me know if you can spare 10 minutes to chat on the phone
Many thanks

 

[Biggles..]

IMO Mira are far better than all the others.
Triton I would never fit again, the head of their technical knows exactly why.
AKW designed an electric care shower that is pap.
Redring...oh well.

 

[CBF]

Lee you forgot that other quality manu, Gainsborough

 

[Dan Robinson]

All electric showers are the work of Satan.

 

[gas112]

How hard is it to make a plastic box with water and electrical connections in the same place and make that box a standardised size so that existing tiling never needs altered.
Mira 3 times the price for something that lasts the same length of time with little or no improvement in performance

 

[mfarrow]

How hard is it to ... make that box a standardised size so that existing tiling never needs altered.

How hard is it to do the tiling for appliances before the shower/toilet/sink/anything else which I've had to pull from the wall on a long string of silicone sealant is fitted.

 

[flameport]

The improvements and features you would like to see on future electric showers, especially those that make them simpler for you to install

None, since they are easy to install - the majority of the work is getting water and electricity to the shower location.
Features - might as well ditch the two power settings - they are next to useless on full, never mind half power.
On and off would do for the vast majority.

How often the existing installation limits electric shower product choice (e.g. mains power supply cable rating) and the difficulties this gives you and your customers

Never, since they are either a brand new install, in which case new cable would be installed, and if replacing and existing one, whatever rating is suitable for the existing cable.

Your preferred make of electric shower (if you have one), and why
How happy you are with the backup service provided by manufacturers, or your suppliers, of electric showers and what could be done to make it better for you and your customers

None. They are all equally as likely to go wrong, primarily due to limescale blocking the heater.
You can pay vast sums for a Mira, knowing that expensive spare parts can be obtained long into the future.
Or fit some cheap effort, knowing that the entire thing will need to be replaced cheaply when it breaks.
Either way, the cost of repair/replacement is the same.

How frequently you supply and fit electric showers, versus fit only, and where you buy them from

As infrequently as possible, since electric showers are only to be used where there really is no other option.
Other types of shower are vastly superior in every way - and this will always be the case, as the limiting factor is the electrical supply.

 

[ccl]

Do any other installers have a view on electric showers for our survey?

If anyone can also spare 10 minutes on the phone I would be grateful. Please use the contact details on my profile. You will be rewarded for your time!

Thanks
Steve