Hi,im looking to install a magic eye in our new extension we have sky hd in our tv room(the tv we use most) and another sky box(not HD) in another room(wich we hardly use). Am i correct in saying i need to run a coax from our HD box to our extension and follow the instructions with the magic eye? If so what kind of coax should i be using? tThe cable run is no more than 10 metres. Thanks in advance.
Installing a Magic eye
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ChrisFrost
You want some WF100.
so if you have a sky+ HD box, u can run some WF100 from the RF2 output to the magic eye then into the other tv ???
would you still be able to pause record etc through the 2nd tv where the magic eye is.?????
btw could u use RG6 cable or not ?
would you still be able to pause record etc through the 2nd tv where the magic eye is.?????
btw could u use RG6 cable or not ?
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ChrisFrost
Yep.
Yep
RG6 is a generic term describing the size of the cable. It doesn't say anything about the quality.
You could argue that any old coax would do for this job. If there was a massive difference in price then I might agree to an extent. The thing is though that really very good coax is only pence more than the cheap tat peddled on Ebay. When the difference is so small why not have the good stuff, I say.
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The cable really needs to be a good, "double-screened" type because the "magic eye" signal is quite weak and prone to interruption by local interference. You could use "ultra-thin" WF65-1 cable if the thickness matters to you. It's somewhat less obtrusive if you have to, for example, run it along skirting boards.
I recommend you download and read all the information here:
http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/tvlink.htm
There's also a review of magic eyes here:
http://www.satcure.co.uk/reviews/review116.htm#03
It's not strictly relevant because it's comparing magic eyes when used with a specific type of "loft Box". However, it's interesting to note that not all magic eyes are equal.
I recommend you download and read all the information here:
http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/tvlink.htm
There's also a review of magic eyes here:
http://www.satcure.co.uk/reviews/review116.htm#03
It's not strictly relevant because it's comparing magic eyes when used with a specific type of "loft Box". However, it's interesting to note that not all magic eyes are equal.
Hi guys, now i am about to fit 2 of these magic eyes
ive got WF100 cable
2 x magic eyes
1 x 2way amp
im just abit confused i now how to wire it all up and turn the RF2 output on in the hidden menu.
its just that it says to test there working first by plugging them into the back of the Sky box without using any connectors.
Well the magic eye has a male bullet connector and so does the RF2 output, so how am i suppose to connect it without using a female connector ???
ive got WF100 cable
2 x magic eyes
1 x 2way amp
im just abit confused i now how to wire it all up and turn the RF2 output on in the hidden menu.
its just that it says to test there working first by plugging them into the back of the Sky box without using any connectors.
Well the magic eye has a male bullet connector and so does the RF2 output, so how am i suppose to connect it without using a female connector ???
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ChrisFrost
either make up a short link cable with the F type one one end (you call it bullet) and an RF plug on the other. or put the plugs on the entire lenngth of cable just for test purposes.
did the job this morning using 2 x magic eyes and a distribution amp.
all works fine
all works fine
Which cable? LNB or RF?
Anyway, coax plug crimp tools aren't cheap and not many places sell the appropriate crimp plugs in quantities less than 100. So I'd guess that you probably won't want to use crimp plugs.
You can join cables like this: http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/fconn.htm#joint
Anyway, coax plug crimp tools aren't cheap and not many places sell the appropriate crimp plugs in quantities less than 100. So I'd guess that you probably won't want to use crimp plugs.
You can join cables like this: http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/fconn.htm#joint
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ChrisFrost
If we are talking about F plugs then Sam's right. A decent tool isn't cheap and the cheap tools never seem to make a decent job. Its easy to mash the plug or end up with it loose if not done right. Quite a few of us in the aerial trade have moved on to compression plugs.
If you just want a cheap solution then use some screw-on F plugs and cover the joint with some heat shrink. If you'd prefer to make a strong joint that will be trouble free then compression fittings are the way forward.
I have a spare compression tool plus the plugs. We could work out something if you want to borrow it. Screw on plugs would be cheapet though.
If you just want a cheap solution then use some screw-on F plugs and cover the joint with some heat shrink. If you'd prefer to make a strong joint that will be trouble free then compression fittings are the way forward.
I have a spare compression tool plus the plugs. We could work out something if you want to borrow it. Screw on plugs would be cheapet though.
Chris, out of interest, have you any experience of joining dissimilar cables? Is there a "one size fits all" compression plug or does it bring the same problems as with crimps - where the plug and die and cable all have to match?
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ChrisFrost
I haven't found a universal compression plug. Even the small O/D difference between RG59 sized and RG6 sized cables requires a different plug. What is useful though is that the same compression tool and die tool works for both sizes of plug.
Thanks, Chris. That's exactly what I suspected and a good reason for using compression rather than crimp. Of course most people still don't know they must select a matching plug.
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