installing a new toilet

[BATIES]

Hello all my first attempt at using a forum.

I am ripping out my bathroom and fitting a bidet and toilet where the bath was as we no longer want a bath as we already have a walk in shower in the same room.

Any way I am installing this on the ground floor and there is a stack that comes from upstairs I can T into.

How is the best to do this?
Will I have to dig up the concrete around the sack to get the right angle?
What parts will I need?
I am quite experience DIYer and have ripped out bathrooms before but just replacing like for like. Is this job for me or do I get an expert in?
I think thats enough for now.
baties

 

[gigz]

If its plastic you will need a tee, elbow, pipe. Check the stack has a vent, place the toilet in desired location and work back to stack remember to allow for a fall in the pipework. Cut for the tee, you may be lucky and might be able to lift the stack enough to get tee in, if not you will need a slip socket fitted in the pipe above the tee. File any ends and apply a lubricant to the fittings.

 

[LUNAT]

HI

be carefull not to disturb other joints on the soil pipe .use plenty of washing up liquid if necessary.

 

[BATIES]

Thanks gigz my shopping list is growing and yes Its plastic and it has a vent at the top.

Is there a set angle of fall?

You put...."you may be lucky and might be able to lift the stack enough to get tee in"
not sure I know what you mean?

But at lease it sounds as if not mad having a go.

 

[gigz]

What i mean is when you make the cut for the tee you may be able to lift the top section (loosen brackets first ) enough to get the tee in. Champfer the ends of the pipe and as LUNAT says use plenty of fairy liquid. I cant remember the recommended fall offhand (have a look at nieghbours )

 

[larrytheleak]

baties you could also use timesaver couplings top &bottom of tee slightly expensive but easy to get on with or there are pre formed neoprene tees with jubilee clips also easy to use the angle rising away from tee is 2 1/2 degeees or appprox 15 mm in 600 mm depending on type of pan you can use a 4 inch flexi long or short to connect to pan
hope this helps

 

[crockett]

Why do people insist on suggesting using washing up liquid, when this actually perishes rubber seals, instead of silicon lubricant??
Yes, I am being picky, but if this forum is supposed to be filled with experts, then give expert advice

 

[Goldspoon]

Why do people insist on suggesting using washing up liquid, when this actually perishes rubber seals, instead of silicon lubricant??
Yes, I am being picky, but if this forum is supposed to be filled with experts, then give expert advice

I think that the folks who spend their free time providing advice are of all different standards: other DIY'ers, experts and various stages in between.

 

[crockett]

True, but as you know Golds, knowledge can be a dangerous thing..............

 

[BATIES]

Thanks everyone for the advice and will be doing it hopefully next week, so will let you all know.

and I've added silicon lubricant to my shopping list.

 

[gigz]

Why do people insist on suggesting using washing up liquid, when this actually perishes rubber seals, instead of silicon lubricant??
Yes, I am being picky, but if this forum is supposed to be filled with experts, then give expert advice

So how are the millions of sink wastes not leaking considering the amount of washing up liquid that goes down there

 

[crockett]

Nothing in the thread mentioned sink wastes..............

 

[gigz]

Nothing in the thread mentioned sink wastes..............

Never said it did, but if washing up liquid perishes rubber seals how does it not rot push fit, rubber seal soil etc. Been using it for donkeys and never ever been called back for a perished seal.

 

[crockett]

Gigz this site is supposed to give the non - trade community, along with others, a helping hand with their construction queries. Yes, I've used washing up liquid in the past to aid fitting waste pipes and fittings, but as there is a less aggressive and PROPER product on sale, just think that people should use it, that's all. Don't want to have a long running domestic, as others do on this site, for what is a simple question.