Installing outside socket

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Is it possible to spur off the lighting circuit and via an RCD and supply power to an outside socket? If so, what is required to do so??
 
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Well,

Crafty is right, but there are circumstances where what you want to do are possible, but it is highly unlikely it would work out ok.

Presuming that you want an outside socket to power lawnmowers, powertools etc.. then it will need to come from the ringmain or direct from the consumer unit. Most lighting circuits are fused at 5/6 amps, so don't offer enough current for a lot of appliances.

As I say, we'd need more info, it's possible (but unlikely) that your lighting circuit is actually a 10amp spur from a ringmain and it's only powering one lamp fixture, and also it possible that you only want an outside socket to power some low energy external lights, in which case, with an RCD you'd be fine. However, I suspect this isn't what you want.


So, more info please! ;)
 
I have a similar wish. I want to spur off the socket ring in the kitchen and fit an external socket via an RCD.

Our kitchen has its own ring main on a dedicated RCD in the consumer unit.

So, is this allowed and if so is it a DIY job or not?
 
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mike++

possible yes, an outside socket spurred from the kitchen ring would be protected by the rcd protecting the kitchen ring. you would need to fit a suitably IP rated socket outside though.

probably not a DIY job unless you can test IR, continuity, efli and the rcd.
 
thanks industryspark - i have bought a suitably rated socket already. I think that i would probably fit a small enclosure (in the house) with a 30mA ELCB. Would that be ok or not necessary?

I also fancy putting a socket and a light in my shed - would that mean making a fused spur rather than taking the ring outside?
 
if you have a ring circuit for your kitchen that is rcd protected then a spur taken from the ring would also be rcd protected providing its wired correctly. no need for a seperate rcd. elcb's arent recognised by the regs anymore and shouldnt be used.

without trying to insult i dont think you have the knowledge to get power to your shed and start running outside cables, etc...... its not a DIY job.

you should be thinking about part P here.......
 
you're right - i don't have domestic wiring knowledge, nor do i know the building regs. I work in industrial automation - i "understand" it all but have no experience with power distribution.
 
Dont get me wrong, i wouldnt do this work myself. Just wanted an understanding of it so as not to get spanked when Mr Thick phones for an estimate!
 

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