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If this works it will be amazing..
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49725741
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49725741
Jet Fuel from Air.
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No, I haven't.
But I do know that the energy companies will seize whatever new developments are around, if they think they can make them work.
Oil companies went into natural gas and into renewables, and are searching for large scale battery storage and hydrogen-based fuels.
Feel free to show us some of the evidence you mention.
But I do know that the energy companies will seize whatever new developments are around, if they think they can make them work.
Oil companies went into natural gas and into renewables, and are searching for large scale battery storage and hydrogen-based fuels.
Feel free to show us some of the evidence you mention.
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Smoke & mirrors.
The detail is in the process used to create the fuel, which will use far more energy & create far more pollution than the fuel it is intended to replace.
The detail is in the process used to create the fuel, which will use far more energy & create far more pollution than the fuel it is intended to replace.
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No. Can you post a link please.Have you never seen the documentories (films) on TV that show this?
Reading the article, it's a way to produce jet fuel from electricity, powered by solar panels. The problem it states is that the amount of solar energy you'd need is massive, for a tiny amount of flying, making it very expensive.
A core problem here is that flying is currently artificially cheap compared to other forms of transport, because jet fuel isn't taxed.
A core problem here is that flying is currently artificially cheap compared to other forms of transport, because jet fuel isn't taxed.
Irrelevant cobblers.
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I can see this as being a top up. i.e. if 10% of jet fuel can be made from carbon capture and lots of electricity, you have a transportable energy source that can work with existing aircraft. There are already jet/hybrids around using electric to assist cruising, but this has the potential to work with existing fleets.
the current plant is small and expensive and not a commercial proposition.
look on it as a prototype.
If solar electricity continues to get cheaper and more plentiful, methods of converting it into other fuels will become more profitable and this might be an example.
Some of the ideas and experiments will turn out to be technological dead ends, and some won't. Nobody knows in advance which.
look on it as a prototype.
If solar electricity continues to get cheaper and more plentiful, methods of converting it into other fuels will become more profitable and this might be an example.
Some of the ideas and experiments will turn out to be technological dead ends, and some won't. Nobody knows in advance which.
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It would be good to see more cargo ships using cruising chute/kites, rotor sails or foils to reduce fuel. Even pumping air under the hull can make a difference. You only have to go down to Southhampton water to see how much sh@te large cruise liners and cargo ship belch out.
smart money is moving into renewables.
Cheaper and more profitable.
https://www.ft.com/content/2586fa10-e122-11e9-b112-9624ec9edc59
"Investors who bet on a shift from fossil fuels to clean energy are being richly rewarded as solar and wind stocks outperform oil and gas shares by a widening margin this year. The iShares Clean Energy exchange-traded fund has risen by 32 per cent so far this year, streaking far ahead of the oil-dominated Vanguard Energy ETF, which has risen by only 1 per cent.
In August, the renewables fund bettered the fossil fuel ETF by the biggest margin in five years.
Renewable energy developers have been benefiting from a sharp reduction in the cost of wind and solar in recent years, which has made them cheaper than coal and natural gas at certain times in many markets.
The cost of solar has fallen 85 per cent since 2010, while wind power has dropped about 50 per cent, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
Renewable stocks also outperformed oil and gas shares in 2017 and 2018, although both sectors ended last year down."
So far as I know, there are not yet many big solar farms in the desert regions of the world where land is cheap and sunshine is plentiful. They will need investments in electricity transmission.
Consider the inner parts of Australia, or the Sahara.
In one oil-free part of the Middle East, solar panels erected by the indiginous people are destroyed by a foreign invader as part of a policy of ethnic cleansing, because electricity combats poverty and eases education and productivity.
Cheaper and more profitable.
https://www.ft.com/content/2586fa10-e122-11e9-b112-9624ec9edc59
"Investors who bet on a shift from fossil fuels to clean energy are being richly rewarded as solar and wind stocks outperform oil and gas shares by a widening margin this year. The iShares Clean Energy exchange-traded fund has risen by 32 per cent so far this year, streaking far ahead of the oil-dominated Vanguard Energy ETF, which has risen by only 1 per cent.
In August, the renewables fund bettered the fossil fuel ETF by the biggest margin in five years.
Renewable energy developers have been benefiting from a sharp reduction in the cost of wind and solar in recent years, which has made them cheaper than coal and natural gas at certain times in many markets.
The cost of solar has fallen 85 per cent since 2010, while wind power has dropped about 50 per cent, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
Renewable stocks also outperformed oil and gas shares in 2017 and 2018, although both sectors ended last year down."
So far as I know, there are not yet many big solar farms in the desert regions of the world where land is cheap and sunshine is plentiful. They will need investments in electricity transmission.
Consider the inner parts of Australia, or the Sahara.
In one oil-free part of the Middle East, solar panels erected by the indiginous people are destroyed by a foreign invader as part of a policy of ethnic cleansing, because electricity combats poverty and eases education and productivity.
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Now here's a thought . . . Instead of using electricity from solar panels, why don't they use one of these jet engines running this fuel to generate the electricity required???
Or am I missing something?
P.S. Rather than flying being artificially cheap because the fuel duty is low, I like to think that other forms of transport are artificially expensive because the fuel duty is high.
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You’re missing the fact that this is about energy transportation. Turning electricity in to jet fuel. So far there aren’t many larger electric planes able to plug in like a Tesla and charge up in turnaround time.
Grand news
The Transport Secretary has discovered that local authorities have billions of pounds of spare money that they can be forced to spend on installing new charging points for EVs.
Conservatives' Magic money tree?
And the country has lots of trained but unemployed electrical and heating workers.
"The UK will have to spend £240bn installing an average of 4,000 electric vehicle charging points and heat pumps a day if the government is to meet its target of cutting greenhouse gas emissions to “net zero” by 2050, according to new forecasts.
A report by the London-based consultancy Capital Economics said 25m electric vehicle charging points and 22m heat pumps will be required at homes and in public places in one of the starkest assessments to date of the cost of meeting the decarbonisation target adopted by the UK this year. A further £48.5bn will be needed to upgrade electricity networks to cope with the extra demand, bringing the total cost to £286bn.
Transport minister George Freeman vowed “to intervene” to push underperforming local councils and motorway operators to build more electric car charging points, using data to funnel public money in an attempt to unblock barriers to the sale of greener cars."
https://www.ft.com/content/9cba0522...egmentId=6132a895-e068-7ddc-4cec-a1abfa5c8378
The Transport Secretary has discovered that local authorities have billions of pounds of spare money that they can be forced to spend on installing new charging points for EVs.
Conservatives' Magic money tree?
And the country has lots of trained but unemployed electrical and heating workers.
"The UK will have to spend £240bn installing an average of 4,000 electric vehicle charging points and heat pumps a day if the government is to meet its target of cutting greenhouse gas emissions to “net zero” by 2050, according to new forecasts.
A report by the London-based consultancy Capital Economics said 25m electric vehicle charging points and 22m heat pumps will be required at homes and in public places in one of the starkest assessments to date of the cost of meeting the decarbonisation target adopted by the UK this year. A further £48.5bn will be needed to upgrade electricity networks to cope with the extra demand, bringing the total cost to £286bn.
Transport minister George Freeman vowed “to intervene” to push underperforming local councils and motorway operators to build more electric car charging points, using data to funnel public money in an attempt to unblock barriers to the sale of greener cars."
https://www.ft.com/content/9cba0522...egmentId=6132a895-e068-7ddc-4cec-a1abfa5c8378
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Bodd
Your like a pack of Hyenas.
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