Kitchen refurb: Moving stopcock (MDPE questions)

[horwich]

Hi

We are renovating our kitchen and the layout is changing. The current layout has the sing just in line with the water meter sitting outside.

I need to move the stopcock across two walls and return with the mains feed to the original position. The current location of the water mains inlet will be visible and we would like to conceal it inside the wall.

I know the best course of action could be to install a new MDPE run in a single piece from the water meter to the new stopcock location. I was thinking in maybe using a 90 bend (Speedfit) and splice into the existing MPDE pipe. These speedfit connections have good ratings, so I hope is not an issue encasing it inside the wall.

Do you see any issues with this approach?

 

[Rodders53]

Seems a lot of messing for little benefit and piping to and fro back to the original location just seems 'odd' to me.

Does the meter incorporate a stop valve on the house connection? If so, do water regs require another stop valve in the dwelling when that close?

I would want my stop valve to shut off all my indoor pipework not just some of it. You just know where that leak would happen!

Would a https://surestop.co.uk/product-range do what you need with the actuator somewhere accessible with a MDPE to 22mm adapter and the rest boxed in? Removing the need for back and forth pipework.

 

[horwich]

Thanks for answering.

It is a lot of mess for such a visual thing. I fully agree with you. But with the new kitchen layout (attached), leaving the cockstop or a register there, is going to be an eyesore.

Yes, I will pipe everything so the cockstop will shut all the supply. My main concern is if is safe to join the MPDE with a speedfit and bury it into the wall. They sell those as underground, so it seems that the probability the fitting leaking is in close to none.

The surestop valves seems nice, but i run into the same issue. I dont want to have a register visible under the window. It will be very visible.

I wonder now why i did say yes to the missus......

 

[thomp1983]

Can you not make the alterations outside so the pipe enters the kitchen where you want it or even just behind the run of units but through the same wall with window it comes through now?

 

[horwich]

Can you not make the alterations outside so the pipe enters the kitchen where you want it or even just behind the run of units but through the same wall with window it comes through now?

I wish!!! It is the front of the house and quite conspicuous. The actual pipe goes straight from the water meter box. I need to stay within that boundary.

 

[horwich]

Shameless self bump...

Any help with this? It is safe to use speedfit fittings for the use case?