Knocking down the Bathroom wall...

[ray316]

My bathroom is small and so l would like to one side with the toilet being on the other side of the wall so toilet and bathroom are one room with more space...
The help and advice l need is, how can l tell if it's a supporting wall, l cannot look in the loft as this has been converted into a bedroom with flooring and carpet.
So is there any other way l can tell if this wall is supporting , l don't think the wall is but l want to make sure and you help and advice would be useful...........Thanks

 

[Alastairreid]

Knock a hole in the ceiling above the wall and check if it continues or if any joists are resting on it.

 

[ray316]

Knock a hole in the ceiling above the wall and check if it continues or if any joists are resting on it.

Well l know the wall does not continue into the loft which is now a bedroom..
l will check the joists as you say by knocking a hole in the bathroom ceiling.
You say check to see if the josts are resting on the wall, so which way should l check to see if it's supporting or not...

 

[Alastairreid]

The wall could be a mid span support or the joists spliced on the wall above.

 

[ray316]

The wall could be a mid span support or the joists spliced on the wall above.

Not sure what you mean by a mid span support.
Has anyone got any info or explain to me which way the joists will go above the ceiling for it to be a supporting or non-supporting wall..

 

[joinerjohn]

If the joists run at right angles to the wall, then it could well be supporting the joists at mid span, or even supporting joists either side of the wall. Perhaps time to seek advice from a local builder or joiner who could have a look. Or,,,, if you can get up into your loft, take a few photos above where the wall is and post them on here.

Edit, I just saw your post saying the loft was now a bedroom. Hmm ,, time to get a local expert in . If there's a bedroom above, the ceiling joists will have been replaced with something a bit beefier and could well be supported by this wall.

 

[theoldun]

Not sure what you mean by a mid span support.
Has anyone got any info or explain to me which way the joists will go above the ceiling for it to be a supporting or non-supporting wall..

If your roof slopes from front to back, then it is 99% certain that ceiling joists will run front to back.
If bathroom and WC are either at the front of house or the back and partition wall runs front to back all as ceiling joists then it is 99% probable that partition is non load bearing. Once again if first floor bathroom partition does not have a ground floor partition directly below it then it is 99% probable that partition is non load bearing.
Cannot say 100% due to loft conversion, so do as Alastair has said and cut neat 150mm square hole in ceiling and have a feel around. Hole can easily be made good.
oldun

 

[ray316]

The roof slopes from front to back and the wall in question runs the same way... The wall is about 8 foot long and meets the landing wall/doors which run in the opposite direction.. directly underneath on the ground level is the kitchen wall which runs front to back of the house but this wall is longer in length...

 

[Alastairreid]

Highly unlikely to be supporting anything then.

 

[ray316]

Bathroom wall was not a supporting wall and l have knock it down today.
joists above ran parallel with the wall removed.
So l now have a breeze block width gap in the ceiling to plasterboard up and skim, trouble is l have nothing to nail the boards to as the joists on either side are behind the ceilings... Any ideas how l can nail these narrow boards up..

 

[Alastairreid]

You need to cut the boards back to the nearest joists.

 

[paul78]

You need to cut the boards back to the nearest joists.

i agree, plus id srew the boards up not nail them. personal preference