Lighting Recomendation plse

[MasterAbacus]

Hi all,

I ve been asked to help out with a friends game room. He has a timber construction outbuilding, It has electrics, but only one strip light.

He wants to fit recessed spot lights, but when i had a look, the cieling is plasterboard fixed to timber beams (3"x2") with Ply on top for light storage space.... (3 inch gap between the two)

Im concerned about the lack of space between the plaster board and plywood for a recessed fitting? What your Thaughts? Any other suggestions for a lighting solution?

Cheers

M.A.

 

[Taylortwocities]

More striplights?

 

[MasterAbacus]

LOL, Yeah thats what I said, but he was looking for something a bit different...

 

[bernardgreen]

Games Room ?

Try playing table tennis under recessed spotlights. The ball flashes as it passes from light to shadow on its journey across the table.

Its different ...........

 

[Space cat]

You can get circular fluorescent lights. Alternatively, you can get very slim light fittings. I used one of these

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=A354558&ts=32655&id=61320

in a stairwell with minimal headroom. I made a circular wooden ring to set it in and it looks really neat.

 

[MasterAbacus]

Ok, well let me expalin a little more about the games room.

It wont have a table tennis table in it, it will have a pool table, with propper table light....and a TV/Media/Console setup, Also a fruit machine and pinball table..... More like a big boys toys games room is probably the better way to describe it.

 

[RF Lighting]

Like you say the gap is way too small to fit recessed lights into.

I assume it is going to be a quite modern styled room, and the guy has a couple of quid to spend in the job?

What about something like a mains voltage cable lighting setup?

Looks quite modern and stylish, and is very versatile for types of lights and positioning of them too.

With it being a mains track, you are not limited by the size of the transformer supplying the wires (like with an ELV setup), and to keep steve happy, you can use energy efficient fluorescent or discharge lamps too.

http://www.delucelighting.com/pages folder/cat page folder/deluce_page_161.html

 

[plugwash]

how does that system work? I hope those two cables it is hanging from aren't exposed live mains. Is it like the festoon lights used outside on building sites where the insulation is supposed to be self healing?

 

[RF Lighting]

I'm not entirely sure how it works TBH, I have never used it. I just found it in one of my catalogues.

If you have a look at This page, it appears that the cable has two catenary wires, and one power wire in it, and the fittings must spike through the insulation similar to a festoon connector.

 

[MasterAbacus]

Like you say the gap is way too small to fit recessed lights into.

THAUGHT AS MUCH...


I assume it is going to be a quite modern styled room, and the guy has a couple of quid to spend in the job?

YES QUITE MODERN, BUDGET ISNT REALLY AN ISSUE FOR HIM, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO KEEP THE PRICE DOWN

What about something like a mains voltage cable lighting setup?

SOUNDS INTERESTING

Looks quite modern and stylish, and is very versatile for types of lights and positioning of them too.

With it being a mains track, you are not limited by the size of the transformer supplying the wires (like with an ELV setup), and to keep steve happy, you can use energy efficient fluorescent or discharge lamps too.

http://www.delucelighting.com/pages folder/cat page folder/deluce_page_161.html[/QUOTE]

THEY LOOK PRETTY COOL...

Ive forwarded the link for him to look at, they do look modern, and should do the job... thanks for the advice

 

[MasterAbacus]

Just an update on this one....

Weve had a chat and he still wants the recessed spots fitting...

So were now looking at removng the plywood top to allow the lights to fit.... But... I was thinkng of maybe fitting some cross beams to mabe lift the storage floor high enough to allow these lights he wants... How much clearence will recessed lights need?

 

[Taylortwocities]

The fitting details for the lights wil tell you the clearance needed.

Most are minimum 100mm. Dont use 'cool beam' lamps - much of the heat goes backwards on those, not what u want.

 

[rjb]

I had a similar issue with a kitchen where a Victorian kitchen had been extended sideways and therefore the new opening where wall once was had a lintel holding it all up. Below this was a breakfast bar and downlighters required.

Obviously the lintel is solid and recessed downlighters were out of the question. The solution was flat surface mounted 12V halogen downlighters. Not only are they a good compromise they are also very cool. Something to take into consideration if you are playing pool below them. The unit is about 2.5cm high I believe.

You can buy 3 x 12V downlighters and transformer from B&Q or Screwfix in various casing finishes