Manrose Fan with timer and shutters

[gardener1214388]

I am replaclng a ceiling fan with a Manrose Fan with timer and shutters.

Model Manrose SPE100AFTS double insulated no earth connection required.

I want to use a lighting circuit junction box in the loft for supply.

I want to use the existing Double Pole 16 amp ceiling pull switch for the switch.

I want to use a Double Pole FCU with 3 amp fuse fitted.

The diagrams show terminal positions of each item; Fan, Switch, FCU, Junction box.

Questions:

How should this be wired to show the Neon indicator lit only when switch is ON.

In simple terms; which wire goes to which terminal; a diagram would be appreciated a picture is worth a thousand words.

I have wired the circuit successfully and the fan works ON/OFF OK but...the timer does not operate; hence the wiring is not correct.

Thank you

 

[AndyPRK]

So it's not linked to the light switch?
You want to turn the fan on with the 16a pull ?

You 16a is double poll So your probably removing the neutral to the fan so the over run timer can't work.

Try linking the neutrals together at the pull

 

[EFLImpudence]

Manrose Fan with timer and shutters

• gardener1214388
• 19 May 2014
• 1

SPE100AFTS

Manrose fan with timer and shutters

• gardener1214388
• 19 May 2014
• 1

SPE100AFTS

 

[AndyPRK]

Well you live needs to go straight from fcu to fan along with the neutral.

The pull switch connects from fcu L to fan SL.

You will need a neutral wire there if u want the neon to work.

 

[EFLImpudence]

If you don't want it on with the light you don't need a double pole switch.

This is the normal way - with light.

 

[EFLImpudence]

In answer to your "How is this done?"

You connect both wires to the same terminal.

 

[AndyPRK]

the 16A terminal marking is confussing me !

 

[AndyPRK]

some of the blank bits filled in !




Just need to understand what L1, L2, L3, L4 are on the switch.

i.e Lin Lout Nin Nout

THe switch instructions should help but someone should know.


In practical cable routing terms, you should run 2C+E between the FCU and pull switch.

And 3C+E between the pull switch and fan.

The neutrals should be connect to the same terminal at the switch to allow the timer and neon to work.

 

[AndyPRK]

Like this if it were a standard marked switch

 

[gardener1214388]

some of the blank bits filled in !




Just need to understand what L1, L2, L3, L4 are on the switch.

i.e Lin Lout Nin Nout

THe switch instructions should help but someone should know.


In practical cable routing terms, you should run 2C+E between the FCU and pull switch.

And 3C+E between the pull switch and fan.

The neutrals should be connect to the same terminal at the switch to allow the timer and neon to work.

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In practical cable routing terms, you should run 2C+E between the FCU and pull switch

ANSWER 1.5mm 2C+E is from Junction box to FCU, then 1.5mm 2C+E is from FCU to Switch and 3C+E is from Switch to Fan.

Just need to understand what L1, L2, L3, L4 are on the switch.

ANSWER L1 is marked "COM 2 Way" the others; L2 L3 L4 have no other markings

 

[gardener1214388]

So it's not linked to the light switch?
You want to turn the fan on with the 16a pull ?

You 16a is double poll So your probably removing the neutral to the fan so the over run timer can't work.

So it's not linked to the light switch?

ANSWER No, my reason for this is that I don't want the light on in the daytime; this was the existing setup not connected via light and the existing setup was switch wired to Junction Box, then Junction Box direct via 3C+E to Fan using the same DP switch.

 

[gardener1214388]

In answer to your "How is this done?"

You connect both wires to the same terminal.

That's what I thought and had done Many thanks for your confirmation.

 

[gardener1214388]

If you don't want it on with the light This is the normal way - with light.
you don't need a double pole switch.

you don't need a double pole switch.
ANSWER The existing DP switch is good quality; so I thought I'd use it rather than replacing it.

 

[EFLImpudence]

ANSWER The existing DP switch is good quality; so I thought I'd use it rather than replacing it.

Well, ok but you only need to use one pole for the switched live, then.

As said, do not switch the permanent live or the neutral as the timer won't work.

 

[AndyPRK]

I guess you need to use a meter to work out what connections are what on the switch, if you are sure you have the correct switch type.